MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer

In message <#UjeWdqVKHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, MEB
<MEB-not-here.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> writes:
>98 Guy wrote:
>
>>
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, tsk, tsk, bruuuuuuhhhhhawwwwwww,,
>aaaaaahhhhh hehehehehehhehe
>
> Have them write some other arguments for you, those are worthless.
>
No he didn't. They're coming to take you away, he he, ha ha ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum." Translation: "Garbage in, garbage out."

In message <Owz4ifrVKHA.504.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, MEB
<MEB-not-here.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> writes:
[]
>SUPPORTED OSs. 9X will not be offered those, and there is NO guarantee
>that any of those fixes created for the SUPPORTED OSs will work in 9X,
>leaving 9X vulnerable AND unprotected, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, at an
>essentially unknown level of vulnerability if these files are installed.

Yes, unknown. Not necessarily better, indeed; but not necessarily worse.
[]
> Frankly, IMO, this is a stupid way to address "keep Win98 alive".
[]
And your way is?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum." Translation: "Garbage in, garbage out."

MEB wrote:

> > The IE activeX kill bits can be applied to a win-9x system
>
> Really stupid presentation, those killbits WERE addressed
> during support period..

No they weren't. There was no such registry modification made available
for win-98 prior to 2006.

And besides, that really wasn't the point. The point was the stuff you
didn't quote, which was this:

=================
Affected and Non-Affected Software

The following software have been tested to determine which versions or
editions are affected. Other versions or editions are either past their
support life cycle or are not affected.
=================

Win-98 is not listed. According to Microsoft, the reason that win-98 is
not listed could be for one of two reasons:

a) win-98 is past it's support life cycle
b) win-98 is not affected.

The fact that reason (a) exists is proof that Microsoft does not mention
defunct products in any communication - be it hot fixes, security
patches, vulerability reports, security bulletins, etc.

So we would expect that Microsoft will be silent on all matters that
relate to windows 98. Even if they know that the IE6 patch files *will
run* and *are appropriate* for win-98, they will never state that
publically.

Just a little reminder for those perhaps unfamiliar with the Usenet
culture. There is a common suggestion: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.
*Expect though*, that there will be those who MUST *tromp on the
trolls* so the world knows what and who they are and/or to dispel
whatever myth or falsehood may be involved. You can generally recognize
a REAL troll or these other parties rather easily by what they
consistently use [attacks against parties and their viable materials]
and their type of posting style.
These low-life Usenetters [note1], generally without anything of value
to post and lacking the intelligence necessary to do so; they *WILL*
attack [often several trolls and sockpuppets at a time] those posting
viable materials attempting to take over the various groups for their
own usage or to kill the respective group [a personal satisfaction to
these types]; and to discredit viable parties and postings to whatever
extent possible.
There are also those who deliberately post false information with
seemingly legitimate links or arguments, or who actually believe the
"urban myths" regardless of ALL of the materials and arguments
otherwise; it does not, however, change what these people are, the scum
of Usenet and what will bring its ultimate demise.

Please read the below so you might have a better understanding of the
various types of parties [there are other classifications], and what to
expect within Usenet. Here's a hint, if the party posting is using their
REAL name, you can likely, a least, consider their post *might* be of
value, since what they post follows them to their REAL life. Note
though: Usenet is also filled with Identity theft, so look for those
parties including some method of verification of who they are.

Here's a well put idea taken from jonz, a dejanews user/troll's sig
[per a discussion with this entity], who must have forgotten this *was*
the sig being used, unless it was a sub-conscious admission and warning
of what this party is/was:

""Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
- Gene Spafford,1992"

So here's "the rest of the story" {Paul Harvey's well known keymark
statement}:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/usenet/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit-and-run_posting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29

note1 - Not all Usenetters are trolls or such, but there ARE vast
numbers of them throughout Usenet with apparently nothing better to do
in their miserable and pathetic lives but to use the groups for their
own inexorable and infantile amusement.

Just a little reminder for those perhaps unfamiliar with the Usenet
culture. There is a common suggestion: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.
*Expect though*, that there will be those who MUST *tromp on the
trolls* so the world knows what and who they are and/or to dispel
whatever myth or falsehood may be involved. You can generally recognize
a REAL troll or these other parties rather easily by what they
consistently use [attacks against parties and their viable materials]
and their type of posting style.
These low-life Usenetters [note1], generally without anything of value
to post and lacking the intelligence necessary to do so; they *WILL*
attack [often several trolls and sockpuppets at a time] those posting
viable materials attempting to take over the various groups for their
own usage or to kill the respective group [a personal satisfaction to
these types]; and to discredit viable parties and postings to whatever
extent possible.
There are also those who deliberately post false information with
seemingly legitimate links or arguments, or who actually believe the
"urban myths" regardless of ALL of the materials and arguments
otherwise; it does not, however, change what these people are, the scum
of Usenet and what will bring its ultimate demise.

Please read the below so you might have a better understanding of the
various types of parties [there are other classifications], and what to
expect within Usenet. Here's a hint, if the party posting is using their
REAL name, you can likely, a least, consider their post *might* be of
value, since what they post follows them to their REAL life. Note
though: Usenet is also filled with Identity theft, so look for those
parties including some method of verification of who they are.

Here's a well put idea taken from jonz, a dejanews user/troll's sig
[per a discussion with this entity], who must have forgotten this *was*
the sig being used, unless it was a sub-conscious admission and warning
of what this party is/was:

""Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
- Gene Spafford,1992"

So here's "the rest of the story" {Paul Harvey's well known keymark
statement}:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/usenet/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit-and-run_posting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29

note1 - Not all Usenetters are trolls or such, but there ARE vast
numbers of them throughout Usenet with apparently nothing better to do
in their miserable and pathetic lives but to use the groups for their
own inexorable and infantile amusement.

Just a little reminder for those perhaps unfamiliar with the Usenet
culture. There is a common suggestion: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.
*Expect though*, that there will be those who MUST *tromp on the
trolls* so the world knows what and who they are and/or to dispel
whatever myth or falsehood may be involved. You can generally recognize
a REAL troll or these other parties rather easily by what they
consistently use [attacks against parties and their viable materials]
and their type of posting style.
These low-life Usenetters [note1], generally without anything of value
to post and lacking the intelligence necessary to do so; they *WILL*
attack [often several trolls and sockpuppets at a time] those posting
viable materials attempting to take over the various groups for their
own usage or to kill the respective group [a personal satisfaction to
these types]; and to discredit viable parties and postings to whatever
extent possible.
There are also those who deliberately post false information with
seemingly legitimate links or arguments, or who actually believe the
"urban myths" regardless of ALL of the materials and arguments
otherwise; it does not, however, change what these people are, the scum
of Usenet and what will bring its ultimate demise.

Please read the below so you might have a better understanding of the
various types of parties [there are other classifications], and what to
expect within Usenet. Here's a hint, if the party posting is using their
REAL name, you can likely, a least, consider their post *might* be of
value, since what they post follows them to their REAL life. Note
though: Usenet is also filled with Identity theft, so look for those
parties including some method of verification of who they are.

Here's a well put idea taken from jonz, a dejanews user/troll's sig
[per a discussion with this entity], who must have forgotten this *was*
the sig being used, unless it was a sub-conscious admission and warning
of what this party is/was:

""Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
- Gene Spafford,1992"

So here's "the rest of the story" {Paul Harvey's well known keymark
statement}:
http://www.angelfire.com/space/usenet/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit-and-run_posting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_%28Internet_culture%29

note1 - Not all Usenetters are trolls or such, but there ARE vast
numbers of them throughout Usenet with apparently nothing better to do
in their miserable and pathetic lives but to use the groups for their
own inexorable and infantile amusement.

MEB wrote:

> > The IE activeX kill bits can be applied to a win-9x system
>
> Really stupid presentation, those killbits WERE addressed
> during support period..

No they weren't. There was no such registry modification made available
for win-98 prior to 2006.

And besides, that really wasn't the point. The point was the stuff you
didn't quote, which was this:

=================
Affected and Non-Affected Software

The following software have been tested to determine which versions or
editions are affected. Other versions or editions are either past their
support life cycle or are not affected.
=================

Win-98 is not listed. According to Microsoft, the reason that win-98 is
not listed could be for one of two reasons:

a) win-98 is past it's support life cycle
b) win-98 is not affected.

The fact that reason (a) exists is proof that Microsoft does not mention
defunct products in any communication - be it hot fixes, security
patches, vulerability reports, security bulletins, etc.

So we would expect that Microsoft will be silent on all matters that
relate to windows 98. Even if they know that the IE6 patch files *will
run* and *are appropriate* for win-98, they will never state that
publically.

WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

The entity above, for which this post was applied to, has been
repeatedly identified as troll and Usenet abuser.
Please do NOT respond to this entity or what they post,
This was an attempt by this entity to bring a useless discussion and
will likely contain NOTHING of value, EVEN IF IT MAY APPEAR SO. Useless
purported arguments will be submitted to which you are supposed to
respond to so they can then have something to do.
Moreover, will cause this entity to abuse any responders who take issue
with what might be posted.
I am creating web pages to show the exact reasons for this
identification and will post links in this WARNING as they are added.
Note specifically the parties which engage in discussion with this entity.
The terms of this engagement are troll and sockpuppet.

WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

The entity above, for which this post was applied to, has been
repeatedly identified as troll and Usenet abuser.
Please do NOT respond to this entity or what they post,
This was an attempt by this entity to bring a useless discussion and
will likely contain NOTHING of value, EVEN IF IT MAY APPEAR SO. Useless
purported arguments will be submitted to which you are supposed to
respond to so they can then have something to do.
Moreover, will cause this entity to abuse any responders who take issue
with what might be posted.
I am creating web pages to show the exact reasons for this
identification and will post links in this WARNING as they are added.
Note specifically the parties which engage in discussion with this entity.
The terms related to this activity are troll and sockpuppets.

WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

The entity above, for which this post was applied to, has been
repeatedly identified as troll and Usenet abuser.
Please do NOT respond to this entity or what they post,
This was an attempt by this entity to bring a useless discussion and
will likely contain NOTHING of value, EVEN IF IT MAY APPEAR SO. Useless
purported arguments will be submitted to which you are supposed to
respond to so they can then have something to do.
Moreover, will cause this entity to abuse any responders who take issue
with what might be posted.
I am creating web pages to show the exact reasons for this
identification and will post links in this WARNING as they are added.
Note specifically the parties which engage in discussion with this entity.
The terms related to this activity are troll and sockpuppets.

MEB wrote:

> > The IE activeX kill bits can be applied to a win-9x system
>
> Really stupid presentation, those killbits WERE addressed
> during support period..

No they weren't. There was no such registry modification made available
for win-98 prior to 2006.

And besides, that really wasn't the point. The point was the stuff you
didn't quote, which was this:

=================
Affected and Non-Affected Software

The following software have been tested to determine which versions or
editions are affected. Other versions or editions are either past their
support life cycle or are not affected.
=================

Win-98 is not listed. According to Microsoft, the reason that win-98 is
not listed could be for one of two reasons:

a) win-98 is past it's support life cycle
b) win-98 is not affected.

The fact that reason (a) exists is proof that Microsoft does not mention
defunct products in any communication - be it hot fixes, security
patches, vulerability reports, security bulletins, etc.

So we would expect that Microsoft will be silent on all matters that
relate to windows 98. Even if they know that the IE6 patch files *will
run* and *are appropriate* for win-98, they will never state that
publically.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:11:47 -0400, MEB <MEB-not-here.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>

Meb, please stop the repeating troll advisory stuff. I am not
saying you are a troll but by repeating the troll advisory, you doing
exactly what a troll does. If you keep it up, I going to have to
put you on the kill file. Which, I know that you don't want, if
you are trying to prove your point. Plus it get a little annoying to
read the troll stuff over and over and over and over.

Thank You,

Greg

98 Guy wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>
WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

The entity above, for which this post was applied to, has been
repeatedly identified as troll and Usenet abuser.
Please do NOT respond to this entity or what they post,
This was an attempt by this entity to bring a useless discussion and
will likely contain NOTHING of value, EVEN IF IT MAY APPEAR SO. Useless
purported arguments will be submitted to which you are supposed to
respond to so they can then have something to do.
Moreover, will cause this entity to abuse any responders who take issue
with what might be posted.
I am creating web pages to show the exact reasons for this
identification and will post links in this WARNING as they are added.
Note specifically the parties which engage in discussion with this party.
The terms related to that type of activity are troll and sockpuppets.