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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 12 Apr 2010, 13:43

John John - MVP wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>
>> And now the latest news:
>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>
> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected the
> printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is responsible for
> the WIA events, remove the web cam and the printer, completely! Remove
> them and any software that was installed by them, you can reinstall them
> later... and this is only a clone so no harm done with anything that you
> do on it, so let's get these 2 things out of the picture completely!
>
> John
Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
can't run?
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby john john - mvp » 12 Apr 2010, 16:35

William B. Lurie wrote:
> John John - MVP wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>
>>> And now the latest news:
>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>
>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected the
>> printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is responsible
>> for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the printer, completely!
>> Remove them and any software that was installed by them, you can
>> reinstall them later... and this is only a clone so no harm done with
>> anything that you do on it, so let's get these 2 things out of the
>> picture completely!
>>
>> John
> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
> can't run?

No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete the
Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then uninstall all
Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.

John
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 12 Apr 2010, 16:46

John John - MVP wrote:
>
>
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>
>>>> And now the latest news:
>>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>>
>>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected the
>>> printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is responsible
>>> for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the printer, completely!
>>> Remove them and any software that was installed by them, you can
>>> reinstall them later... and this is only a clone so no harm done with
>>> anything that you do on it, so let's get these 2 things out of the
>>> picture completely!
>>>
>>> John
>> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
>> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
>> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
>> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
>> can't run?
>
> No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete the
> Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then uninstall all
> Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.
>
> John
Okay, John. I did the Add/Remove on all Lexmark and Creative Web Cam....
I did not go to Registry so their vestigial info is probably still
stored there. On rebooting, it kept referring to new Lexmark 5400 series
in little balloons off the toolbar, but I ignored them. When I go back
there I'll snoop to see what's really left behind.

But I made the 2+ hour run, and it did not hibernate. Here are the Event
Logs, and you'll notice WIA and Automatic Update. Perhaps you'd like to
give me specific instructions on what to do about disabling those before
I make my next run. I'll be waiting............

> Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
> Information 4/12/2010 8:46:10 AM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:46:07 AM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Warning 4/12/2010 8:44:45 AM Userenv None 1517 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:35:59 AM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:35:57 AM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/11/2010 3:46:12 PM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/11/2010 3:46:09 PM Norton AntiVirus None 34 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/11/2010 3:03:22 PM Norton AntiVirus None 35 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006

> Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:48:16 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:48:16 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:48:15 AM Security Privilege Use 576 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:48:15 AM Security Logon/Logoff 528 NETWORK SERVICE COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:34 AM Security System Event 515 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 850 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM Security Policy Change 849 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Success Audit 4/12/2010 8:46:33 AM

(above snipped)

> Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
> Information 4/12/2010 11:19:22 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 11:19:21 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:48:15 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:48:12 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:26 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:47:11 AM SRTSP None 2003 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:45:37 AM Tcpip None 4201 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:45:52 AM eventlog None 6005 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:45:52 AM eventlog None 6009 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:44:48 AM eventlog None 6006 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:43:22 AM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8:43:22 AM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 8

(above snipped)

> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Service Control Manager
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 7035
> Date: 4/12/2010
> Time: 11:19:21 AM
> User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
> Computer: COMPAQ-2006
> Description:
> The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service was successfully sent a start control.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Service Control Manager
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 7036
> Date: 4/12/2010
> Time: 11:19:22 AM
> User: N/A
> Computer: COMPAQ-2006
> Description:
> The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Service Control Manager
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 7035
> Date: 4/12/2010
> Time: 8:48:12 AM
> User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
> Computer: COMPAQ-2006
> Description:
> The Automatic Updates service was successfully sent a start control.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Service Control Manager
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 7036
> Date: 4/12/2010
> Time: 8:48:15 AM
> User: N/A
> Computer: COMPAQ-2006
> Description:
> The Automatic Updates service entered the running state.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 12 Apr 2010, 19:36

John John - MVP wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And now the latest news:
>>>>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>>>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>>>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>>>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>>>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>>>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>>>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>>>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>>>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>>>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected the
>>>>> printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is
>>>>> responsible for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the printer,
>>>>> completely! Remove them and any software that was installed by
>>>>> them, you can reinstall them later... and this is only a clone so
>>>>> no harm done with anything that you do on it, so let's get these 2
>>>>> things out of the picture completely!
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
>>>> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
>>>> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
>>>> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
>>>> can't run?
>>>
>>> No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete the
>>> Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then uninstall all
>>> Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.
>>>
>>> John
>> Okay, John. I did the Add/Remove on all Lexmark and Creative Web Cam....
>> I did not go to Registry so their vestigial info is probably still
>> stored there.
>
> Don't bother with the registry, remnants in there shouldn't hurt anything.
>
>
>> On rebooting, it kept referring to new Lexmark 5400 series in little
>> balloons off the toolbar, but I ignored them. When I go back
>> there I'll snoop to see what's really left behind.
>
> Windows is discovering the printer, disconnect the printer from the
> computer.
>
>
>> But I made the 2+ hour run, and it did not hibernate. Here are the Event
>> Logs, and you'll notice WIA and Automatic Update. Perhaps you'd like to
>> give me specific instructions on what to do about disabling those before
>> I make my next run. I'll be waiting............
>
> Let it do it's automatic updates and then try again.
>
> John
>
It's now 2:30, after resetting Automatic Updates and WIA to
Disabled, and again, desktop came back on after about 1.5 hours, and I
stopped the run after 2.5 hours..... no hibernate. Did we learn
anything, John? I'll reset Automatic Updates to Automatic and see
if it does different.
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby john john - mvp » 12 Apr 2010, 20:50

William B. Lurie wrote:
> John John - MVP wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And now the latest news:
>>>>>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>>>>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>>>>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>>>>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>>>>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>>>>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>>>>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>>>>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>>>>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected the
>>>>>> printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is
>>>>>> responsible for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the
>>>>>> printer, completely! Remove them and any software that was
>>>>>> installed by them, you can reinstall them later... and this is
>>>>>> only a clone so no harm done with anything that you do on it, so
>>>>>> let's get these 2 things out of the picture completely!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
>>>>> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
>>>>> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
>>>>> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
>>>>> can't run?
>>>>
>>>> No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete
>>>> the Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then uninstall
>>>> all Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>> Okay, John. I did the Add/Remove on all Lexmark and Creative Web Cam....
>>> I did not go to Registry so their vestigial info is probably still
>>> stored there.
>>
>> Don't bother with the registry, remnants in there shouldn't hurt
>> anything.
>>
>>
>>> On rebooting, it kept referring to new Lexmark 5400 series in little
>>> balloons off the toolbar, but I ignored them. When I go back
>>> there I'll snoop to see what's really left behind.
>>
>> Windows is discovering the printer, disconnect the printer from the
>> computer.
>>
>>
>>> But I made the 2+ hour run, and it did not hibernate. Here are the Event
>>> Logs, and you'll notice WIA and Automatic Update. Perhaps you'd like to
>>> give me specific instructions on what to do about disabling those before
>>> I make my next run. I'll be waiting............
>>
>> Let it do it's automatic updates and then try again.
>>
>> John
>>
> It's now 2:30, after resetting Automatic Updates and WIA to
> Disabled, and again, desktop came back on after about 1.5 hours, and I
> stopped the run after 2.5 hours..... no hibernate. Did we learn
> anything, John? I'll reset Automatic Updates to Automatic and see
> if it does different.

Please post a new report of the ServiceStat.vbs file.

John
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 13 Apr 2010, 01:17

John John - MVP wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And now the latest news:
>>>>>>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>>>>>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>>>>>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>>>>>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>>>>>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>>>>>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>>>>>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>>>>>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>>>>>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected
>>>>>>> the printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is
>>>>>>> responsible for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the
>>>>>>> printer, completely! Remove them and any software that was
>>>>>>> installed by them, you can reinstall them later... and this is
>>>>>>> only a clone so no harm done with anything that you do on it, so
>>>>>>> let's get these 2 things out of the picture completely!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
>>>>>> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
>>>>>> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
>>>>>> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
>>>>>> can't run?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete
>>>>> the Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then
>>>>> uninstall all Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>> Okay, John. I did the Add/Remove on all Lexmark and Creative Web
>>>> Cam....
>>>> I did not go to Registry so their vestigial info is probably still
>>>> stored there.
>>>
>>> Don't bother with the registry, remnants in there shouldn't hurt
>>> anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On rebooting, it kept referring to new Lexmark 5400 series in little
>>>> balloons off the toolbar, but I ignored them. When I go back
>>>> there I'll snoop to see what's really left behind.
>>>
>>> Windows is discovering the printer, disconnect the printer from the
>>> computer.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But I made the 2+ hour run, and it did not hibernate. Here are the
>>>> Event
>>>> Logs, and you'll notice WIA and Automatic Update. Perhaps you'd like to
>>>> give me specific instructions on what to do about disabling those
>>>> before
>>>> I make my next run. I'll be waiting............
>>>
>>> Let it do it's automatic updates and then try again.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> It's now 2:30, after resetting Automatic Updates and WIA to
>> Disabled, and again, desktop came back on after about 1.5 hours, and I
>> stopped the run after 2.5 hours..... no hibernate. Did we learn
>> anything, John? I'll reset Automatic Updates to Automatic and see
>> if it does different.
>
> Please post a new report of the ServiceStat.vbs file.
>
> John

I've been repeating and making sure what's what. I just
completed a run where Lexmark was unplugged, and it's the most
significant I've seen. I'll attach the Event data......just
*one* oddball, maybe you can tell something from it. Then in
a little while I'll do the ServiceStat.vbs bit...gotta dig
that request outa my pile of notes..... Please see below.

> Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
> Information 4/12/2010 7:30:29 PM Tcpip None 4201 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 5:24:04 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 5:24:04 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 5:24:04 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 5:24:04 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 5:24:04 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/12/2010 5:24:04 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM
>
> Event Type: Information
> Event Source: Tcpip
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 4201
> Date: 4/12/2010
> Time: 7:30:29 PM
> User: N/A
> Computer: COMPAQ-2006
> Description:
> The system detected that network adapter \DEVICE\TCPIP_{D5E50A75-4A1C-4421-A5B4-569C9FE131B8} was connected to the network, and has initiated normal operation over the network adapter.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Data:
> 0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 50 00 ......P.
> 0008: 00 00 00 00 69 10 00 40 ....i..@
> 0010: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
> 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Please note, John. No reference to WIA or Automatic Updates.
Just one Event, that 4201 that I spread out....after a bit
over 2 hours.... Tcpip ....

Later......
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 13 Apr 2010, 02:01

John John - MVP wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And now the latest news:
>>>>>>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>>>>>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>>>>>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>>>>>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>>>>>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>>>>>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>>>>>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>>>>>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>>>>>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected
>>>>>>> the printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is
>>>>>>> responsible for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the
>>>>>>> printer, completely! Remove them and any software that was
>>>>>>> installed by them, you can reinstall them later... and this is
>>>>>>> only a clone so no harm done with anything that you do on it, so
>>>>>>> let's get these 2 things out of the picture completely!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
>>>>>> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
>>>>>> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
>>>>>> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
>>>>>> can't run?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete
>>>>> the Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then
>>>>> uninstall all Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>> Okay, John. I did the Add/Remove on all Lexmark and Creative Web
>>>> Cam....
>>>> I did not go to Registry so their vestigial info is probably still
>>>> stored there.
>>>
>>> Don't bother with the registry, remnants in there shouldn't hurt
>>> anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On rebooting, it kept referring to new Lexmark 5400 series in little
>>>> balloons off the toolbar, but I ignored them. When I go back
>>>> there I'll snoop to see what's really left behind.
>>>
>>> Windows is discovering the printer, disconnect the printer from the
>>> computer.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But I made the 2+ hour run, and it did not hibernate. Here are the
>>>> Event
>>>> Logs, and you'll notice WIA and Automatic Update. Perhaps you'd like to
>>>> give me specific instructions on what to do about disabling those
>>>> before
>>>> I make my next run. I'll be waiting............
>>>
>>> Let it do it's automatic updates and then try again.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>> It's now 2:30, after resetting Automatic Updates and WIA to
>> Disabled, and again, desktop came back on after about 1.5 hours, and I
>> stopped the run after 2.5 hours..... no hibernate. Did we learn
>> anything, John? I'll reset Automatic Updates to Automatic and see
>> if it does different.
>
> Please post a new report of the ServiceStat.vbs file.
>
> John

Okay, John, took a bit of doing, but here it is:

> Service Name,Start Mode
> Alerter,Disabled,
> ALG,Manual,
> AppMgmt,Manual,
> aspnet_state,Manual,
> Ati HotKey Poller,Disabled,
> ATI Smart,Manual,
> AudioSrv,Auto,
> Automatic LiveUpdate Scheduler,Disabled,
> BITS,Manual,
> Browser,Auto,
> CiSvc,Manual,
> ClipSrv,Disabled,
> clr_optimization_v2.0.50727_32,Manual,
> COMSysApp,Manual,
> CryptSvc,Auto,
> DcomLaunch,Auto,
> Dhcp,Auto,
> dmadmin,Manual,
> dmserver,Manual,
> Dnscache,Manual,
> ERSvc,Manual,
> Eventlog,Auto,
> EventSystem,Manual,
> FastUserSwitchingCompatibility,Manual,
> Fax,Manual,
> FontCache3.0.0.0,Manual,
> GEARSecurity,Disabled,
> helpsvc,Auto,
> HidServ,Disabled,
> HTTPFilter,Manual,
> IDriverT,Manual,
> idsvc,Manual,
> Imapi Helper,Manual,
> ImapiService,Manual,
> lanmanserver,Manual,
> lanmanworkstation,Auto,
> LexBceS,Auto,
> LiveUpdate,Manual,
> LmHosts,Manual,
> MBAMService,Disabled,
> MDM,Manual,
> Messenger,Disabled,
> mnmsrvc,Manual,
> MSIServer,Manual,
> NetDDE,Disabled,
> NetDDEdsdm,Disabled,
> Netlogon,Manual,
> Netman,Manual,
> NetTcpPortSharing,Disabled,
> Nla,Manual,
> Norton AntiVirus,Auto,
> Norton Save and Restore,Manual,
> NProtectService,Manual,
> NtLmSsp,Manual,
> NtmsSvc,Manual,
> ose,Manual,
> PlugPlay,Auto,
> PolicyAgent,Manual,
> ProtectedStorage,Auto,
> psqlWGE,Auto,
> RasAuto,Disabled,
> RasMan,Manual,
> RDSessMgr,Manual,
> RemoteAccess,Disabled,
> RpcLocator,Manual,
> RpcSs,Auto,
> RSVP,Manual,
> SamSs,Auto,
> SCardSvr,Manual,
> Schedule,Manual,
> seclogon,Manual,
> SENS,Auto,
> SharedAccess,Auto,
> ShellHWDetection,Auto,
> Speed Disk service,Disabled,
> Spooler,Manual,
> srservice,Auto,
> SSDPSRV,Manual,
> stisvc,Manual,
> SwPrv,Manual,
> Symantec RemoteAssist,Manual,
> SysmonLog,Manual,
> TapiSrv,Manual,
> TermService,Auto,
> Themes,Auto,
> TrkWks,Manual,
> upnphost,Manual,
> UPS,Manual,
> Viewpoint Manager Service,Disabled,
> VSS,Manual,
> W32Time,Auto,
> WebClient,Manual,
> winmgmt,Auto,
> WmdmPmSN,Manual,
> WmiApSrv,Disabled,
> WMPNetworkSvc,Manual,
> wscsvc,Manual,
> wuauserv,Auto,
> WudfSvc,Manual,
> WZCSVC,Auto,
> xmlprov,Manual,

Bill
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 13 Apr 2010, 13:55

John John - MVP wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And now the latest news:
>>>>>>>>>> I simply repeated the above run, from 3:45 to 7:15 PM,
>>>>>>>>>> and the Log shows no errors at all, and not even any
>>>>>>>>>> events to complain about. There was a repeat of the
>>>>>>>>>> 7035/7936 'Info' events telling about WIA's involvement,
>>>>>>>>>> but no hint of it ever having been asked to hibernate,
>>>>>>>>>> or not to. Maybe this is almost the success you were
>>>>>>>>>> looking for....namely, nothing is *stopping* it from
>>>>>>>>>> hibernating.......now if you can resuscitate that, you
>>>>>>>>>> hit the jack pot. (And of course, restore the Printer
>>>>>>>>>> association, and whatever else you may have removed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing that was changed in the .bat file should have affected
>>>>>>>>> the printer. I suspect that your web cam or your printer is
>>>>>>>>> responsible for the WIA events, remove the web cam and the
>>>>>>>>> printer, completely! Remove them and any software that was
>>>>>>>>> installed by them, you can reinstall them later... and this is
>>>>>>>>> only a clone so no harm done with anything that you do on it,
>>>>>>>>> so let's get these 2 things out of the picture completely!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> Okay, John, will do, later this morning. But neither of those two
>>>>>>>> should have any reason for causing an event that would occur once
>>>>>>>> every hour. I hate to remove them by Add/Remove programs. How about
>>>>>>>> just manually changing their .exe files to .xxx files so that they
>>>>>>>> can't run?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, they must be properly removed by Add/Remove programs. Delete
>>>>>>> the Lexmark printer in the Printers and Faxes section then
>>>>>>> uninstall all Lexmark software. Also uninstall the Web cam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>> Okay, John. I did the Add/Remove on all Lexmark and Creative Web
>>>>>> Cam....
>>>>>> I did not go to Registry so their vestigial info is probably still
>>>>>> stored there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't bother with the registry, remnants in there shouldn't hurt
>>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On rebooting, it kept referring to new Lexmark 5400 series in
>>>>>> little balloons off the toolbar, but I ignored them. When I go back
>>>>>> there I'll snoop to see what's really left behind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows is discovering the printer, disconnect the printer from the
>>>>> computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But I made the 2+ hour run, and it did not hibernate. Here are the
>>>>>> Event
>>>>>> Logs, and you'll notice WIA and Automatic Update. Perhaps you'd
>>>>>> like to
>>>>>> give me specific instructions on what to do about disabling those
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> I make my next run. I'll be waiting............
>>>>>
>>>>> Let it do it's automatic updates and then try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>> It's now 2:30, after resetting Automatic Updates and WIA to
>>>> Disabled, and again, desktop came back on after about 1.5 hours, and I
>>>> stopped the run after 2.5 hours..... no hibernate. Did we learn
>>>> anything, John? I'll reset Automatic Updates to Automatic and see
>>>> if it does different.
>>>
>>> Please post a new report of the ServiceStat.vbs file.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> Okay, John, took a bit of doing, but here it is:
>>
>>> Service Name,Start Mode
>>> Alerter,Disabled,
>>> ALG,Manual,
>>> AppMgmt,Manual,
>>> aspnet_state,Manual,
>>> Ati HotKey Poller,Disabled,
>>> ATI Smart,Manual,
>>> AudioSrv,Auto,
>>> Automatic LiveUpdate Scheduler,Disabled,
>>> BITS,Manual,
>>> Browser,Auto,
>>> CiSvc,Manual,
>>> ClipSrv,Disabled,
>>> clr_optimization_v2.0.50727_32,Manual,
>>> COMSysApp,Manual,
>>> CryptSvc,Auto,
>>> DcomLaunch,Auto,
>>> Dhcp,Auto,
>>> dmadmin,Manual,
>>> dmserver,Manual,
>>> Dnscache,Manual,
>>> ERSvc,Manual,
>>> Eventlog,Auto,
>>> EventSystem,Manual,
>>> FastUserSwitchingCompatibility,Manual,
>>> Fax,Manual,
>>> FontCache3.0.0.0,Manual,
>>> GEARSecurity,Disabled,
>>> helpsvc,Auto,
>>> HidServ,Disabled,
>>> HTTPFilter,Manual,
>>> IDriverT,Manual,
>>> idsvc,Manual,
>>> Imapi Helper,Manual,
>>> ImapiService,Manual,
>>> lanmanserver,Manual,
>>> lanmanworkstation,Auto,
>>> LexBceS,Auto,
>>> LiveUpdate,Manual,
>>> LmHosts,Manual,
>>> MBAMService,Disabled,
>>> MDM,Manual,
>>> Messenger,Disabled,
>>> mnmsrvc,Manual,
>>> MSIServer,Manual,
>>> NetDDE,Disabled,
>>> NetDDEdsdm,Disabled,
>>> Netlogon,Manual,
>>> Netman,Manual,
>>> NetTcpPortSharing,Disabled,
>>> Nla,Manual,
>>> Norton AntiVirus,Auto,
>>> Norton Save and Restore,Manual,
>>> NProtectService,Manual,
>>> NtLmSsp,Manual,
>>> NtmsSvc,Manual,
>>> ose,Manual,
>>> PlugPlay,Auto,
>>> PolicyAgent,Manual,
>>> ProtectedStorage,Auto,
>>> psqlWGE,Auto,
>>> RasAuto,Disabled,
>>> RasMan,Manual,
>>> RDSessMgr,Manual,
>>> RemoteAccess,Disabled,
>>> RpcLocator,Manual,
>>> RpcSs,Auto,
>>> RSVP,Manual,
>>> SamSs,Auto,
>>> SCardSvr,Manual,
>>> Schedule,Manual,
>>> seclogon,Manual,
>>> SENS,Auto,
>>> SharedAccess,Auto,
>>> ShellHWDetection,Auto,
>>> Speed Disk service,Disabled,
>>> Spooler,Manual,
>>> srservice,Auto,
>>> SSDPSRV,Manual,
>>> stisvc,Manual,
>>> SwPrv,Manual,
>>> Symantec RemoteAssist,Manual,
>>> SysmonLog,Manual,
>>> TapiSrv,Manual,
>>> TermService,Auto,
>>> Themes,Auto,
>>> TrkWks,Manual,
>>> upnphost,Manual,
>>> UPS,Manual,
>>> Viewpoint Manager Service,Disabled,
>>> VSS,Manual,
>>> W32Time,Auto,
>>> WebClient,Manual,
>>> winmgmt,Auto,
>>> WmdmPmSN,Manual,
>>> WmiApSrv,Disabled,
>>> WMPNetworkSvc,Manual,
>>> wscsvc,Manual,
>>> wuauserv,Auto,
>>> WudfSvc,Manual,
>>> WZCSVC,Auto,
>>> xmlprov,Manual,
>
> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on
> at your end...
>
> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of
> the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies:
>
> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters
> but who disabled this?

Not I, John, honestly. I try to follow instructions from my leader
religiously. Even fervently.
>
> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto?

Not I, John. Please tell me if you want me to change any
specific items, and to what, and I'll run again.

> You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you
> are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a
> list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available
> computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast
> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12
> minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role
> in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network.
> You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe
> someone wants this thing barking every 12 minutes....

Maybe on next run I should Disable browser?

>
> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and
> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to
> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it
> from Disabled to Manual?

Mea non culpa!
>
> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer
> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to
> wonder why is this service still present...

Tell me if I should do anything about it (and how to do so!).
>
> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What
> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A
> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package,
> I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that
> it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this
> database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to
> be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day.

John, I have no accounting package that I'm aware of. I
have my home checking account in service, but there's no reason
for it ever to come online except when I dbl-clk its icon.

>
> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled.
> Information on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might
> be junk installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL
> features... or that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without
> knowing if you are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time
> being. But as far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you
> should have it disabled.

I use AOL only for Instant Messaging but will disable Viewpoint along
with what else??

>
> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that
> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't
> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and
> failing) to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for
> that specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see
> that it is back... like the cat with nine lives...

Perhaps a limited test is in order.....pick 5 items for me to carefully
set active, Manual, and Start them as well, and see what gets changed.
I can handle that simple a task myself, you pick 'em for me.

>
> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service
> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you
> on a wireless network? \

No, I am hardwired via Ethernet to a phone line. Not a cable network.

You said that you are a standalone machine that
> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a
> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?).

Exactly right, John.

Is your printer
> running on wireless?

No, USB.

Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a
> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless
> functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet?
> Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have
> 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router...

Answer to all of these is *no*. No wireless anything, wired KB
and mouse, hardwired modem.

>
> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were
> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other
> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you
> to run, we'll give it another try.

I've made at least 8 runs since I Uninstalled Codestuff. I think we
can say that all the above mysterious resettings occurred after
Codestuff was removed. These unasked for resettings were
incremental and I should be able to repeat them. As I said above, give
me a list of 5 or 10 settings to make Disabled or Start and Automatic
or Manual or whatever and I'll set them, go away for 2 hours, and come
back and verify.

And thanks a million for sticking with it.
> Bill
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 13 Apr 2010, 16:51

John John - MVP wrote:
>
> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on
> at your end...
>
> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of
> the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies:
>
> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters
> but who disabled this?
>
> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto?
> You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you
> are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a
> list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available
> computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast
> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12
> minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role
> in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network.
> You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe
> someone wants this thing barking every 12 minutes....
>
> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and
> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to
> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it
> from Disabled to Manual?
>
> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer
> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to
> wonder why is this service still present...
>
> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What
> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A
> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package,
> I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that
> it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this
> database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to
> be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day.
>
> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled.
> Information on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might
> be junk installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL
> features... or that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without
> knowing if you are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time
> being. But as far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you
> should have it disabled.
>
> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that
> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't
> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and
> failing) to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for
> that specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see
> that it is back... like the cat with nine lives...
>
> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service
> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you
> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that
> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a
> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer
> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a
> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless
> functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet?
> Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have
> 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router...
>
> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were
> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other
> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you
> to run, we'll give it another try.
>
> John

Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you
to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you
want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and
establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours
and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see
what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm
waiting for your advice.

I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing
happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to
obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it.
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby unknown » 13 Apr 2010, 16:51

Not all 'events' are recorded but the hibernate time out clock is being
reset..
"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:uxoL1Ey2KHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> John John - MVP wrote:
>>
>> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on
>> at your end...
>>
>> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of
>> the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies:
>>
>> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters
>> but who disabled this?
>>
>> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto?
>> You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you
>> are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a
>> list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available
>> computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast
>> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12
>> minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role
>> in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network.
>> You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe someone
>> wants this thing barking every 12 minutes....
>>
>> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and
>> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to
>> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it from
>> Disabled to Manual?
>>
>> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer
>> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to
>> wonder why is this service still present...
>>
>> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What
>> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A
>> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package,
>> I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that
>> it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this
>> database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to
>> be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day.
>>
>> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled. Information
>> on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might be junk
>> installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL features... or
>> that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without knowing if you
>> are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time being. But as
>> far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you should have it
>> disabled.
>>
>> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that
>> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't
>> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and failing)
>> to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for that
>> specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see that
>> it is back... like the cat with nine lives...
>>
>> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service
>> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you
>> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that
>> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a
>> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer
>> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a
>> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless
>> functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet?
>> Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have
>> 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router...
>>
>> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were
>> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other
>> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you to
>> run, we'll give it another try.
>>
>> John
>
> Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you
> to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you
> want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and
> establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours
> and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see
> what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm
> waiting for your advice.
>
> I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing
> happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to
> obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it.
unknown
 
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby william b. lurie » 13 Apr 2010, 18:01

Yes, and maybe John can devise a way to tell us why
it is being reset.

Unknown wrote:
> Not all 'events' are recorded but the hibernate time out clock is being
> reset..
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:uxoL1Ey2KHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going on
>>> at your end...
>>>
>>> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of
>>> the start values of some of the services but I note some inconsistencies:
>>>
>>> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters
>>> but who disabled this?
>>>
>>> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to Auto?
>>> You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that definitely you
>>> are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the browse list, a
>>> list of of all available servers on domains or a list of available
>>> computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast
>>> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every 12
>>> minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a role
>>> in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the network.
>>> You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto? Maybe someone
>>> wants this thing barking every 12 minutes....
>>>
>>> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and
>>> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to
>>> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it from
>>> Disabled to Manual?
>>>
>>> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer
>>> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to
>>> wonder why is this service still present...
>>>
>>> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What
>>> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A
>>> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting package,
>>> I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually suggests that
>>> it is part of some kind of database. And I have to wonder if this
>>> database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service that seemed to
>>> be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day.
>>>
>>> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled. Information
>>> on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might be junk
>>> installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL features... or
>>> that it might be unwanted junk related to adware. Without knowing if you
>>> are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for the time being. But as
>>> far as I'm concerned if you can live without it maybe you should have it
>>> disabled.
>>>
>>> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that
>>> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't
>>> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and failing)
>>> to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for that
>>> specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I see that
>>> it is back... like the cat with nine lives...
>>>
>>> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service
>>> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you
>>> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that
>>> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a
>>> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer
>>> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a
>>> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its wireless
>>> functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the internet?
>>> Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you have
>>> 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router...
>>>
>>> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were
>>> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other
>>> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you to
>>> run, we'll give it another try.
>>>
>>> John
>> Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you
>> to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you
>> want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and
>> establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours
>> and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see
>> what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm
>> waiting for your advice.
>>
>> I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing
>> happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to
>> obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it.
>
>
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Re: 2-hour hibernate failure

Postby unknown » 13 Apr 2010, 18:01

Your XP is Professional? Did you install Windows Workgroup Engine?
"William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:OH8lwry2KHA.1624@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Yes, and maybe John can devise a way to tell us why
> it is being reset.
>
> Unknown wrote:
>> Not all 'events' are recorded but the hibernate time out clock is being
>> reset..
>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:uxoL1Ey2KHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>>> Well, forgive me but I surely have to wonder what it is that is going
>>>> on at your end...
>>>>
>>>> The last batch file that I asked you to run would have changed some of
>>>> the start values of some of the services but I note some
>>>> inconsistencies:
>>>>
>>>> Ati HotKey Poller set to Manual now it' Disabled. Not that it matters
>>>> but who disabled this?
>>>>
>>>> Browser set to Manual now it's back on Auto. Who set this back to
>>>> Auto? You told me that you have a stand alone desktop and that
>>>> definitely you are not on a network. The Browser service maintains the
>>>> browse list, a list of of all available servers on domains or a list of
>>>> available computers on workgroups. The Browser service does broadcast
>>>> announcements over the network at specific time intervals (like every
>>>> 12 minutes, until the Master Browser tells it to shut up) and plays a
>>>> role in the assignment of browser tasks to specific computers on the
>>>> network. You have no network... why is the Browser service on Auto?
>>>> Maybe someone wants this thing barking every 12 minutes....
>>>>
>>>> lanmanserver set to Disabled now it's Manual. No network, no file and
>>>> printer sharing so as far as I'm concerned this should be set to
>>>> disabled, Manual might also be fine but the point is, who changed it
>>>> from Disabled to Manual?
>>>>
>>>> LexBceS still set to Auto. This is part of your Lexmark printer
>>>> software, if the printer and all its software was removed I have to
>>>> wonder why is this service still present...
>>>>
>>>> psqlWGE set to Manual now it's bact to Auto. What is this thing? What
>>>> software are you running that needs this thing to be set to Auto? A
>>>> quick search had revealed that it might belong to an accounting
>>>> package, I can't say for sure but anything with "sql" in it usually
>>>> suggests that it is part of some kind of database. And I have to
>>>> wonder if this database is in anyway associated to the Indexing service
>>>> that seemed to be doing cataloging work at any or all hours of the day.
>>>>
>>>> Viewpoint Manager Service was set to Auto, now it's Disabled.
>>>> Information on this is a bit scant or vague but it seems that it might
>>>> be junk installed by AOL and that it might be needed for some AOL
>>>> features... or that it might be unwanted junk related to adware.
>>>> Without knowing if you are on AOL I had decided to leave it on Auto for
>>>> the time being. But as far as I'm concerned if you can live without it
>>>> maybe you should have it disabled.
>>>>
>>>> W32Time set to Manual now back to Auto. You said in earlier posts that
>>>> the Time service was improperly configured and that it couldn't
>>>> synchronize with a time server, so all it's doing is trying (and
>>>> failing) to contact a time server, network traffic for naught and for
>>>> that specific reason I wanted to remove this from the picture, but I
>>>> see that it is back... like the cat with nine lives...
>>>>
>>>> WZCSVC was set to Manual now it's back to Auto. This is is the service
>>>> that automatically configures 802.11 wireless network devices. Are you
>>>> on a wireless network? You said that you are a standalone machine that
>>>> is not part of a network and that you plug to the internet with a
>>>> telephone cable (I assume DSL, not dial-up, right?). Is your printer
>>>> running on wireless? Is the webcam a wireless device? Do you have a
>>>> wireless router? If you do have a wireless router, why are its
>>>> wireless functions running if you use a telephone cable to plug to the
>>>> internet? Why is this service back to Auto? For all I know maybe you
>>>> have 'unwanted guests' accessing your wireless router...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you inadvertently changed some of these settings while you were
>>>> 'playing' with CodeStuff Starter. I'm still quite busy with other
>>>> commitments, I will try to be back later with a new batch file for you
>>>> to run, we'll give it another try.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>> Well,John, the only approach I can see that makes sense, is for you
>>> to give me a script file that will set all my services to what you
>>> want, and then I'll run ServiceStat.vbc and autoruns.exe and
>>> establish a baseline, and then I'll simply let it sit for 2 hours
>>> and run autoruns.exe again and report autostart.txt and we can see
>>> what was changed when I do nothing in between. Meanwhile, I'm
>>> waiting for your advice.
>>>
>>> I can't understand how the Events Log shows absolutely nothing
>>> happening in the two-hour period, so no reason for it not to
>>> obey the hibernate command......yet it jest doesn't do it.
>>
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