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On 01/16/2010 09:24 PM, Hot-text wrote:
> Microsoft INFO Helps files on windows 98 or Dyeing one by one at
> http://support.microsoft.com/
> you can not see iT >>>> Hmm
>

Oh, so that's what you were talking about.. difficult to tell with the
language change-over.

Ah Right, this has been occurring since about two or three years before
EOL; an article here, a trouble shooting doc there,,, another file no
longer offered on corporate or WU, or .... its not a supported OS now,
and was on the way out then as far as Microsoft was concerned...

>
>
>
> "MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#TZrT#ulKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> On 01/16/2010 02:22 PM, Hot-text wrote:
>>> WINDOWS IS GOING TO STOP UPDATES FOR WIN98
>>
>> Actual updates from Microsoft for Windows 98SE stopped in April 2006
>> [and those mostly for IE6 and OE issues, not the system], or are you
>> referring to WU [Windows Update site]?
>>
>> Where did you find information on the closure of WU to Win98 [if that's
>> what you're referring to]?
>>
>>> so they will no more scanning of your computer for MS software that need
>>> updated.
>>> THERE Deleting INFO on WIN98 to make room for New Windows in the NT's
>>
>> Here you would be somewhat correct, some of the older help and
>> information for Win9X is being removed or revised.
>>
>>>
>>> So CRY of Spy,,, On XP and UP>>> we here to Help OP out with Win98!
>>>
>>> "thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9D02DB1F520Bthanexit@188.40.43.245...
>>>> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in
>>>> news:en5IWpllKHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>>>>
>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>
>>>>> Oh come on, thanatoid, they're scanning your computer for
>>>>> what? Your secret decoder ring's hiding place?
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I have no life.,.. Give me a break... Paranoia at least
>>>> provides some amusement... Besides, MS have been forced to admit
>>>> on at least one occasion (that I remember) that their programs
>>>> were spying on the users (start of WGA). Who knows what they're
>>>> really up to. We ALL know they do not have a blemish-free record
>>>> of pure morality and have been stealing (they were convicted by
>>>> a French court of stealing the code from a French program,
>>>> sorry, I can't remember any more details) buying-out-to-kill,
>>>> spying all over the place and being good businessmen and
>>>> Americans in general.
>>>>
>>>> And if they DO NOT check your machine, how come so many people
>>>> get "your copy of Windows may not be legal" when they go online?
>>>>
>>>> Etc.
>>>>
>>>>> Go to the
>>>>> Microsoft site and download the Microsoft Layer for Unicode
>>>>> (MSLU), and extract the files to the System folder. Big
>>>>> deal. Use Opera to do it...there is no need to use IE at
>>>>> all. No, you say...one should get the package from an
>>>>> online file depository....why? To increase the risk of
>>>>> downloading a virus-laden package from an unknown party?
>>>>> That makes a lot of sense.....NOT!
>>>>
>>>> NOW who's being paranoid! www.driverguides.com and other major
>>>> driver sites are WELL known for spreading malware, right? NOT!
>>>>
>>>> Besides, anyone who installs ANYTHING they DL'd without
>>>> AV/malware scan first is a moron, plain and simple.
>>>>
>>>> Basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>>> basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>>> basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>>> basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>>> basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>>> basics, basics.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
>>>> and those that will break later.
>>>> - Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
>>>> not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
>>>> the quote. But it's true.)
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> MEB
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:UlP0$DKkVaULFw2q@soft255.demon.co.uk:

<SNIP>

> To be fair, have people using '9x systems been getting
> that? []

NO, that became a feature with XP.

>>Besides, anyone who installs ANYTHING they DL'd without
>>AV/malware scan first is a moron, plain and simple.
>>
>>Basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>basics,
>
> Agreed ...
>
>>basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics,
>>basics, basics, basics, basics, basics, basics.
>>
> ... though not perhaps that far ... (-:

People seem to have forgotten the word, and copy and paste is so
easy to do...

--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)

"Hot-text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:5E23FA19-3AD7-44B2-81C3-9A76B6174F81@microsoft.com:

> WINDOWS IS GOING TO STOP UPDATES FOR WIN98

They HAVE stopped along time ago.

> so they will no more scanning of your computer for MS
> software that need updated.

They never DID scan 9x machines.

> THERE Deleting INFO on WIN98 to make room for New Windows
> in the NT's
>
> So CRY of Spy,,, On XP and UP>>> we here to Help OP out
> with Win98!

HUH???

<SNIP>

Why don't you learn to write comprehensible English and not to
top-post?

--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)

thanatoid wrote:
> "Hot-text" <hot-text@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:5E23FA19-3AD7-44B2-81C3-9A76B6174F81@microsoft.com:
>
>> WINDOWS IS GOING TO STOP UPDATES FOR WIN98
>
> They HAVE stopped along time ago.

And who cares about the "updates" anyway.

>> so they will no more scanning of your computer for MS
>> software that need updated.
>
> They never DID scan 9x machines.

Nobody is scanning my XP machine either, unless you're talking about going
to the windows update site, which is entirely optional.

>> THERE Deleting INFO on WIN98 to make room for New Windows
>> in the NT's
>>
>> So CRY of Spy,,, On XP and UP>>> we here to Help OP out
>> with Win98!
>
> HUH???
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Why don't you learn to write comprehensible English

That would be nice - I agree.

> and not to top-post?

Nothin' wrong with top posting, or inline posting for that matter, either,
as the situation warrants. One just needs to have an open mind!

Robert Macy wrote:
> On Jan 14, 10:27 pm, MEB <MEB-not-h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/14/2010 11:48 PM, thanatoid wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Hot-text" <hot-t...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >news:CB74EAB5-FEFB-4BC8-8C21-D2BE5092B5F4@microsoft.com:
>>
>> >> Why do we need unicows.dll in are Windows 98 all Version
>> >> System Folder for? And Why I need to get it from
>> >>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... splaylang=
>> >> en&FamilyID=73ba7bd7-ed06-4f0d-80a4-2a7eeaee17e2 Only?
>>
>> > You can get if from any file depository. If MS told you (or one
>> > of their slaves) that only THEY can supply you with it, that's
>> > just so they can do a scan of your computer while you're
>> > connected to them with IE.
>>
>> > That file is needed by a couple of programs, like an earlier
>> > (not latest) 98SE version of vlc and a few others I can't
>> > remember.
>>
>> > Unless a program says something like "can't find unicows.dll,
>> > program/installation terminating", you don't need it.
>>
>> I would add that you should place it into the folder for the
>> application rather than in system. It is/was a security issue in
>> Win9X when installed for system-wide usage, hence you generally find
>> it installed *by the application* into its own folder if needed.
>>
>> --
>> MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
>> Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security,
>> Networkinghttp://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law,
>> Justice, and Government ___---
>
> Thanks for THAT heads up!
>
> I found it in my WINDOWS/SYSTEM folder and would like to move it to
> the appropriate application folder. How do I find which one uses
> it?

(a) "START button, Find, F/F"
(b) Named: *.exe, *.dll

If you want to search every file,
omit an entry in Named. You may add
other extensions separated by commas.
Or, search every file by omitting any entry
in Named -- but that's overkill!

(c) Containing text: unicows
(Omit the ".dll" of it.)

That caught both of mine...

C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
C:\Program Files\OE-QuoteFix

...., but each folder already contains its own unicows.dll. There was no
mention of the .dll in my registry. I have a copy of the .dll nowhere
else.

But I'm not taking a stand on whether the .dll is safe in
C:\Windows\System or not!

> Just move it out and wait?
>
> Or, is there some whizbang utility that looks through an application
> and lists all the .dll's it uses? Or, are they only called upon when
> certain sections of the program run? So there is no way.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
news:OwBHyyJmKHA.1648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

<SNIP>

> But I'm not taking a stand on whether the .dll is safe in
> C:\Windows\System or not!

WHY are y'all so damn paranoid about unicows? It has cute name,
and if vlc required it, that means as much as anything else
possible could that the file can be trusted. Period.

And if you're STILL worried, don't use any programs requiring it
while you're on the net. The only program I ever ran into that
needed it was vlc.



--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)

MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:OMZvNoLmKHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> You may have missed the point, Win98 has basic support
> [unlike W2K and
> up in which it is inherent], e.g., the basic hook
> necessary, however the OS is not designed to handle full
> Unicode activities nor provide protections for Unicode.

OK, I sort of get that. I just felt that since the file was
fairly widely available, and vlc (whom I trust) required it, it
was basically safe. Of course, ANY exe or dll can be used
maliciously, so as always, the user is the bottom line.

<SNIP>

> A bit "windy" there, but you should get the point.

I think so, thanks for explaining.

> Its not paranoia,
> its the vulnerabilities associated with its installation in
> the *system folder* and resultant registry entry which
> Win98 DOES NOT have otherwise. Were this an NT we could say
> system files run with elevated privileges whereas other
> files are assigned lesser privileges, and explain it a bit
> easier.

Got it.

<SNIP>

> *SIMILAR SITUATION - .net*
>
> The same holds true for .net; it is for developers,
> servers, and ONLY
> those that require it for some reason, like within the
> local network. Yet you do find some that suggest
> installation.

THAT is NEVER going on my machine.

I can't remember exactly but a week or two ago I read something
that was a little old but confirmed my feelings about .net and
in general, that pretty much anything not totally comprehensible
AND "supposed to make the computing experience easier" /and/
especially made by MS is to be avoided.

<SNIP>

--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)

On 01/18/2010 11:44 PM, thanatoid wrote:
> MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:OMZvNoLmKHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>> You may have missed the point, Win98 has basic support
>> [unlike W2K and
>> up in which it is inherent], e.g., the basic hook
>> necessary, however the OS is not designed to handle full
>> Unicode activities nor provide protections for Unicode.
>
> OK, I sort of get that. I just felt that since the file was
> fairly widely available, and vlc (whom I trust) required it, it
> was basically safe. Of course, ANY exe or dll can be used
> maliciously, so as always, the user is the bottom line.
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> A bit "windy" there, but you should get the point.
>
> I think so, thanks for explaining.
>
>> Its not paranoia,
>> its the vulnerabilities associated with its installation in
>> the *system folder* and resultant registry entry which
>> Win98 DOES NOT have otherwise. Were this an NT we could say
>> system files run with elevated privileges whereas other
>> files are assigned lesser privileges, and explain it a bit
>> easier.
>
> Got it.
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> *SIMILAR SITUATION - .net*
>>
>> The same holds true for .net; it is for developers,
>> servers, and ONLY
>> those that require it for some reason, like within the
>> local network. Yet you do find some that suggest
>> installation.
>
> THAT is NEVER going on my machine.
>
> I can't remember exactly but a week or two ago I read something
> that was a little old but confirmed my feelings about .net and
> in general, that pretty much anything not totally comprehensible
> AND "supposed to make the computing experience easier" /and/
> especially made by MS is to be avoided.
>
> <SNIP>
>

HEHEHe, yeah I sometimes feel that way myself. It really made me a bit
angry when I ran across what appeared to be nice applications that
REQUIRED .net installation merely to run. That was ridiculous to me;
there is already MFC, WS, JAVA, VBS, C, and other; yet I was supposed
install "yet another" scripting environment and have it available in my
system at all times.
NAH, I tested it for awhile and that was enough to convince me it was a
bad idea.

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