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On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:18:56 -0500, "FromTheRafters" <erratic
@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:b741n59mjnn15206q6o5bif6u2on412es8@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:43:30 -0500, MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, it seems that a large percentage of experts or the most
> >> knowledgeable people ARE from foreign non-English native language
> >> nations. The same holds true for Linux and other OSs.
> >> That does not, however, excuse those whose native language IS
> >> English
> >> and their poor grammar and writing, though per most info, the general
> >> scale is around 8th grade reading and comprehension skills with even
> >> lower writing abilities [around 6th grade]. For instance: I must
> >> limit
> >> my writing style to 12th grade level [in formal documents] or even
> >> college graduates and supposed professionals get lost; and this is
> >> not
> >> meant as anything more than a plain statement of fact [born out in
> >> the
> >> courts], e.g., it is not a derogatory comment nor bragging.
> >
> >
> > I normally avoid correcting people's spelling, grammar, or usage
> > errors, but considering what you've said here, let me point out two
> > things:
> >
> > 1. That last phrase in parentheses should be "borne out in court."
> >
> > 2. The "e.g." in that last sentence should be "i. e."
>
> ...and I suppose a purist would insist on the either/or pairing -
> neither nor in this case.


Right! I missed that.


>
> I usually don't comment on such things because my own language usage is
> far from perfect. My point was that many legitimate websites would be
> suspicious looking if proper language usage was the only gauge.



I usually don't comment on such things because despite not being
perfect myself, it's simply rude. I commented in this case only
because I was commenting on the English of a commenter.


> Many of
> Microsoft's own pages could use proofreading.


Yep!

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"MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[...]

> WRONG, but YOU are welcome to believe whatever YOU want. I will argue
> with you if you wish. We can begin anytime you wish.

[...]

This is the complaint department, arguments are across the hall and two
doors down.

Apologies to Monty Python for the departmental restructuring.

On 02/08/2010 08:25 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:18:56 -0500, "FromTheRafters" <erratic
> @nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:b741n59mjnn15206q6o5bif6u2on412es8@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:43:30 -0500, MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, it seems that a large percentage of experts or the most
>>>> knowledgeable people ARE from foreign non-English native language
>>>> nations. The same holds true for Linux and other OSs.
>>>> That does not, however, excuse those whose native language IS
>>>> English
>>>> and their poor grammar and writing, though per most info, the general
>>>> scale is around 8th grade reading and comprehension skills with even
>>>> lower writing abilities [around 6th grade]. For instance: I must
>>>> limit
>>>> my writing style to 12th grade level [in formal documents] or even
>>>> college graduates and supposed professionals get lost; and this is
>>>> not
>>>> meant as anything more than a plain statement of fact [born out in
>>>> the
>>>> courts], e.g., it is not a derogatory comment nor bragging.
>>>
>>>
>>> I normally avoid correcting people's spelling, grammar, or usage
>>> errors, but considering what you've said here, let me point out two
>>> things:
>>>
>>> 1. That last phrase in parentheses should be "borne out in court."
>>>
>>> 2. The "e.g." in that last sentence should be "i. e."
>>
>> ...and I suppose a purist would insist on the either/or pairing -
>> neither nor in this case.
>
>
> Right! I missed that.
>
>
>>
>> I usually don't comment on such things because my own language usage is
>> far from perfect. My point was that many legitimate websites would be
>> suspicious looking if proper language usage was the only gauge.
>
>
>
> I usually don't comment on such things because despite not being
> perfect myself, it's simply rude. I commented in this case only
> because I was commenting on the English of a commenter.
>
>
>> Many of
>> Microsoft's own pages could use proofreading.
>
>
> Yep!
>

Wrong to both of you, let me explain for those without the intellect to
understand.

FIRST, take the WHOLE statement as ONE THOUGHT.
The beginning is:
"That does not,"
the ending is:
"nor bragging."
Take particular note of the punctuation included within the PARAGRAPH...

Now "born out in the courts" means:
The concepts idea was birthed [born] within the court system over the
course of mankind's existence. [born out in the courts]. NOT as borne
[carried, issued, displayed, or otherwise] in the courts, records,
judgments or otherwise, as you wrote. YOU change the tenor and meaning
by simply removing a key word "the". YOUR "borne out in court." makes
sense IF I were using those specific records or rulings in which the
issues were broached or reflected. That IS NOT what I wrote, is it..
Moreover, borne is the past participle of bear.

NEXT the e.g. verses the i.e.. The use of e.g. is appropriate when
examples are given. The EXAMPLE (exempli gratia) complaints were listed as:
"it is not (1.) a derogatory comment nor (2.) bragging".
Do the number indicators help you?

Now for the either/or verses neither/nor or as I wrote - is not/nor.
Best look again... *is not* and *nor* in particular.

Now if you wish I DO have Webster's Collegiate Dictionary within reach,
and a second dictionary/thesaurus which has a nifty second on
grammatical issues and usage, etc.. Plus, if you care to, run what I
posted through Flesch-Kincaid or similar grammatical check tool using
the different writing formats.
When you have done that, run your own postings for comparison. If you
want a real treat and enlightenment, do several of your prior postings...

Now actually READ and TRY to comprehend what I wrote. And next time
either keep your mouths shut or we can do the Usenet "dance".

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"MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotair.com> wrote in message
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> Wrong to both of you, let me explain for those without the intellect
> to
> understand.

All I said was "I suppose a purist would..."

If you could read (and comprehend) as well as write, you probably
wouldn't have argued that point because "right or wrong" was not the
issue. If you wish to argue about what a purist would or would not
insist on, you would still have to deal with the fact that it was also a
supposition on my part.

I think that your skills are needed more here:
http://www.hotairballooning.com/

On 02/09/2010 07:31 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotair.com> wrote in message
> news:ehX4hnUqKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>> Wrong to both of you, let me explain for those without the intellect
>> to
>> understand.
>
> All I said was "I suppose a purist would..."
>
> If you could read (and comprehend) as well as write, you probably
> wouldn't have argued that point because "right or wrong" was not the
> issue. If you wish to argue about what a purist would or would not
> insist on, you would still have to deal with the fact that it was also a
> supposition on my part.
>
> I think that your skills are needed more here:
> http://www.hotairballooning.com/
>
>

And I'm sure your skills could be used, hmmmmmm, I can't think of any
place where your quality, skills, and abilities, would be of service or
use to anyone. Certainly, we (as people concerned with the decay of the
English language) should hope you have no responsibility for teaching
the English language to children or foreigners.

Of course, being the type of party you have now displayed yourself to
be [having been given the choice of showing stupidity and continuing;
or, changing your attitude from normal Usenet ignorance and activities],
YOU chose to continue while attempting to bend the thread to support
your claims. Perhaps you think "a purist" is one of the Usenet style of
posters, largely ignorant yet willing to post against others without
concern, being hidden behind the alias being used.
IF SO, you make wonderful example of "On the Internet nobody knows
you're a dog.". You have even gone the normal route of changing message
indicators and the infantile direction to some place you assume shows
some form of analogous representation of my posting style; further, I
would suppose you think that is cute, when it is in essence, moronic and
soporific.

--
MEB
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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

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