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On 7/26/2010 4:25 PM, AdeW wrote:
>>>> System properties has an ! exclamation by the mouse only.
>>
>>> It sounds like you need to update your mouse driver(s). They have
>>> become corrupted.
>>
>> That was code 24 for the mouse, and code 28 for usb vga dual camera.
>> But restart soft reboot and then no ! exclamation mark for the camera
>> just the mouse.
>
>> I've even looked at the device manager and it says the mouse 'device
>> is working properly' so that means the drivers are fine right?
>
> This is the message i got yesterday in device manager as on this MS
> webpage....
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/125174
>
> If this is a Plug and Play device, the following text is displayed:
> This device is either not present, not working properly, or does not
> have all the drivers installed. (Code 24)
>
> Try upgrading the device drivers for this device.
>
> Solution button: Update Drivers
>
> This code means that the device was not found (for example, it is
> missing or is not working properly).
>
> To resolve this error code, follow the recommended solutions. If the
> device still does not work, make sure the device is connected to your
> computer correctly. For example, make sure all cables are correctly
> installed, or that the adapter cards are properly seated in their
> slots.

Did you download and install new mouse driver(s) for your device.

In message <i2o52i$go1$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Dan W
<nothanks@sorry.cuz> writes:
[]
>Did you download and install new mouse driver(s) for your device.

Unless it has some unusual feature, or you want an unusual software
function/feature, I thought basic PS/2 mouse working was inherent in
Windows, from at least 95 (if not 3.x) on?

Has the OP tried another PS/2 mouse? The descriptions sounded to me very
much like a failing hardware problem (hope in the mouse not the socket).
--
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On Jul 29, 8:04

AdeW wrote:
> On Jul 29, 8:04 am, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
> <G6...@soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <i2o52i$go...@news.eternal-september.org>, Dan
>> W<notha...@sorry.cuz> writes:
>>
>>> Did you download and install new mouse driver(s) for your device.
>>
>> Unless it has some unusual feature, or you want an unusual software
>> function/feature, I thought basic PS/2 mouse working was inherent in
>> Windows, from at least 95 (if not 3.x) on?
>>
>> Has the OP tried another PS/2 mouse? The descriptions sounded to me very
>> much like a failing hardware problem (hope in the mouse not the socket).
>
> I've put a cable tie around the table leg for the mouse cable rather
> putting the cable under the modem cos i felt it might have been a bit
> too close to the mouse when the mouse cable flexes and moves around
> the mouse mat.
>
> I am putting off and procrastinating unplugging my mouse from the ps/2
> port and trying another (and using my local library PCs).
> As you yourself J. P. Gilliver (John) have said about the motherboard
>
> "Sadly, the mouse socket is soldered into the motherboard; as anyone
> who's worked on electronics knows, connectors soldered into boards
> (at
> least right-angle ones) tend to go flaky after a while. A mouse one,
> where (however small) flexings of the cable are continuously applied,
> is
> more likely to go, I suppose. (The keyboard connector is part of the
> same structure.) "
>
> Could unplugging and replugging make the soldering to the motherboard
> worse?

Possibly, but probably not likely (and if it's already intermittent, it will
stay such, so it's not going to make much practical difference).

I haven't been following all of the discussion, but you could probably
determine if an intermittent mouse problem is in the PS/2 connector or the
cable by wiggling the connector right where it plugs in, versus holding the
connector steady with one hand, and wiggling just the cable where it enters
the connector (while holding the connector firm in the other hand).

In message <j46dnZpqwsuPR8zRnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Bill in Co
<surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> writes:
>AdeW wrote:
[]
>> Could unplugging and replugging make the soldering to the motherboard
>> worse?
>
>Possibly, but probably not likely (and if it's already intermittent, it will
>stay such, so it's not going to make much practical difference).

I'd disagree slightly - unplugging and replugging will put a _lot_ more
stress on the connector and its joints than just waggling. Though as SC
says, if it's already on the way out, it _might_ not matter so much.
(Or, it might kill it altogether, of course.)
>
>I haven't been following all of the discussion, but you could probably
>determine if an intermittent mouse problem is in the PS/2 connector or the
>cable by wiggling the connector right where it plugs in, versus holding the
>connector steady with one hand, and wiggling just the cable where it enters
>the connector (while holding the connector firm in the other hand).
>
>
Trying another mouse would also give useful information ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Men love to wonder, and that is the seed of science.

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <j46dnZpqwsuPR8zRnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Bill in Co
> <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> writes:
>> AdeW wrote:
> []
>>> Could unplugging and replugging make the soldering to the motherboard
>>> worse?
>>
>> Possibly, but probably not likely (and if it's already intermittent, it
>> will
>> stay such, so it's not going to make much practical difference).
>
> I'd disagree slightly - unplugging and replugging will put a _lot_ more
> stress on the connector and its joints than just waggling. Though as SC
> says, if it's already on the way out, it _might_ not matter so much.
> (Or, it might kill it altogether, of course.)

OK. My point was if it's already flaky, it's probably not going to matter
too much, but you're right, it *could* make it worse. If it's that bad,
and assuming this PS/2 connector is the problem, I'm not sure what practical
solution exists, short of opening it all up and resoldering - a real PIA.
Even a "mickey mouse fix" (like gluing the mouse cable or an additional
plug-in adapter might not be doable, but if I were desperate, I might just
try

Well, I guess one could go to a USB mouse, and just sidestep the problem.
Maybe that's the best solution, IF the problem was due to the mounted PS/2
connector.

>> I haven't been following all of the discussion, but you could probably
>> determine if an intermittent mouse problem is in the PS/2 connector or
>> the
>> cable by wiggling the connector right where it plugs in, versus holding
>> the
>> connector steady with one hand, and wiggling just the cable where it
>> enters
>> the connector (while holding the connector firm in the other hand).
>>
>>
> Trying another mouse would also give useful information ...

Absolutely. Wonder if he has tried that yet.

On Jul 29, 9:56

> I haven't been following all of the discussion, but you could probably
> determine if an intermittent mouse problem is in the PS/2 connector or the
> cable by wiggling the connector right where it plugs in, versus holding the
> connector steady with one hand, and wiggling just the cable where it enters
> the connector (while holding the connector firm in the other hand).

I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?

> OK.

AdeW wrote:
>> OK. My point was if it's already flaky, it's probably not going to matter
>> too much, but you're right, it *could* make it worse. If it's that bad,
>> and assuming this PS/2 connector is the problem, I'm not sure what
>> practical
>> solution exists, short of opening it all up and resoldering - a real PIA.
>
> PIA is an acronym for Peripheral Interface Adapter?

Ummm, no, that's not the one I was thinking of here.
(PIA = pain in the ....)

You should try a new mouse. That's what I did, and it worked
for that very same problem.

Alex


"AdeW" <adnw14@live.co.uk> schreef in bericht
news:42ae843b-e666-4b5a-803f-cfbbbc0f687b@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> My mouse becomes erratic a while after starting computer where the
> pointer disappears into the corners and the context menu is randomly
> activated.
>
> So i use the accessibility mouse which uses the arrows on number pad
> until eventually the keyboard stops responding but accessibility mouse
> on the number pad still works.
>
> I restart the computer and its all fine.
>
> I tried Dr Watson but it just said nothing obviously unusual
>
> Scan reg nothing wrong. Scandisk fine. System file checker just says
> setupx.dll is wrong but i've read its a file not to worry about.
>
> I thought it could be a problem in the internet explorer cache but
> i've had this mouse problem when i had never started IE after
> restarting computer.

> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?

I have managed to use computer in the last few days without the mouse
or keyboard going wrong. I noticed that the mouse cable had a acute
turn (if you liken it to a race track).

By being gentle with the mouse and letting it settle after i let go of
it with my hand i found it after using it for a few hours in a
position pointing to the left - angled more in the direction of the
cable - although it means me sticking out my elbow.

I think this puts less stress on the cable.

When i was using the computer in 2007 it was a different table which
meant the mouse cable went forwards till it reached the back of the
table rather than to the - left as I've had it recently.

AdeW wrote:
>> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
>> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?

It can. Or it might have been a poor connection in the first place (if it
were well soldered in the first place, wiggling wouldn't cause any havoc).

> I have managed to use computer in the last few days without the mouse
> or keyboard going wrong. I noticed that the mouse cable had a acute
> turn (if you liken it to a race track).

And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases.
It's generally not advisable to do that.

Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on the
cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.

On 8 Aug, 05:43, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> AdeW wrote:
> >> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
> >> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?
>
> It can.

AdeW wrote:
> On 8 Aug, 05:43, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> AdeW wrote:
>>>> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
>>>> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?
>>
>> It can. Or it might have been a poor connection in the first place (if it
>> were well soldered in the first place, wiggling wouldn't cause any
>> havoc).
>>
>>> I have managed to use computer in the last few days without the mouse
>>> or keyboard going wrong. I noticed that the mouse cable had a acute
>>> turn (if you liken it to a race track).
>>
>> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases.
>> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>>
>> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
>> the
>> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> pointer started moving again.
>
> On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> away.
>
> So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> the mouse.

Or its cable, possibly. IF it's the cable (and not the mouse), then....

If you can't readily replace the mouse cable, which is likely, you might at
least be able to localize which part of the cable is causing the
intermittent problem (by bending it at different spots and monitoring it),
and if you can find a specific place where this problem happens, perhaps
glue a wooden shim on the cable at that point just to keep it fixed in that
position (but I'd classify this as a "quick and dirty, mickey mouse patch
job"

> I suppose I will have to change the mouse at some point - unless i'm
> careful.
>
> I have though now swapped the cables round so that keyboard cable
> doesn't get in the way of the mouse