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bill in co.
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by bill in co. »

PCR wrote:
> Bill in Co. wrote:
>> PCR wrote:
>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:47:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In 24hoursupport.helpdesk, PCR wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see your response to my post only this one piggy-backed on
>>>>>> ?Ǭ

pcr
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by pcr »

Bill in Co. wrote:
> PCR wrote:
>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>> PCR wrote:
>>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:47:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In 24hoursupport.helpdesk, PCR wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see your response to my post only this one piggy-backed
>>>>>>> on ?Ǭ

pcr
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by pcr »

Andy wrote:
> PCR wrote:
>
>> I see no need to switch to another news server just to hear cussin'
>> 'n swearin'! I can always take up golf again for that. But, it does
>> seem some of those words are getting through here on the MS server;
>> so, MEB could be right, that the bot is down or undergoing an update.
>
> Maybe it's running on Windows and has encountered a BSOD? :-)

I don't know. Maybe. :-).

> Cheers,
> Andy.

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aardvark
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by aardvark »

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:00:31 -0600, Bill in Co. wrote:

> PCR wrote:
>> Bill in Co. wrote:
>>> PCR wrote:
>>>> Aardvark wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:47:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In 24hoursupport.helpdesk, PCR wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see your response to my post only this one piggy-backed on
>>>>>>>

aardvark
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by aardvark »

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:31:06 -0400, PCR wrote:


>> Thanks. Any chance you could stop using a pipe (|) character for your
>> quoted text? Your posts are awful to read, otherwise.
>
> I guess. I changed it in both an OE setting & in an OE-QuoteFix setting.
> Seems to have worked. But what was awful about it?

Pictorial evidence of how awful the pipe character is in a real
newsreader:

<http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=125l15t&s=5>

Pictorial evidence of how easy to read a post is when the correct quoting
character is used (in a real newsreader):

<http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vx2bus&s=5>

Perhaps NOW you understand.



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pcr
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by pcr »

Aardvark wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:31:06 -0400, PCR wrote:
>
>
>>> Thanks. Any chance you could stop using a pipe (|) character for
>>> your quoted text? Your posts are awful to read, otherwise.
>>
>> I guess. I changed it in both an OE setting & in an OE-QuoteFix
>> setting. Seems to have worked. But what was awful about it?
>
> Pictorial evidence of how awful the pipe character is in a real
> newsreader:
>
> <http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=125l15t&s=5>
>
> Pictorial evidence of how easy to read a post is when the correct
> quoting character is used (in a real newsreader):
>
> <http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vx2bus&s=5>
>
> Perhaps NOW you understand.

OK. It's been done. Although all R-arrows looks a tad monotonous to me &
the pipe character looked just fine in my fake OE6 reader, I will honor
the requirements of your real one which can't seem to handle them. OK,
bye.


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aardvark
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by aardvark »

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400, PCR wrote:

>>> I guess. I changed it in both an OE setting & in an OE-QuoteFix
>>> setting. Seems to have worked. But what was awful about it?
>>
>> Pictorial evidence of how awful the pipe character is in a real
>> newsreader:
>>
>> <http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=125l15t&s=5>
>>
>> Pictorial evidence of how easy to read a post is when the correct
>> quoting character is used (in a real newsreader):
>>
>> <http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vx2bus&s=5>
>>
>> Perhaps NOW you understand.
>
> OK. It's been done.

So I'd noticed. Well done.

> Although all R-arrows looks a tad monotonous to me

They are the standard character in newsreaders for indicating quoted
lines of text. Monotonous they may seem to you,but real newsreaders rely
on them in order to correctly format posts for the reader. Note that in
the second picture to which I linked that lines quoted from the previous
poster, and the one before that, and the one before that have different
colours depending on how many arrows are at the beginning of each line.
This makes even very long posts which contain quoted lines from multiple
previous posts easy to read, and also makes it easier to identify who
said what previously.

By changing your quotation character from the unconventional 'pipe' to
the correct right-pointing caret, it's not just me you're pleasing, but
all other news group subscribers with proper newsreaders who may read
your posts (you are also ensuring that more eyes will peruse your posts
rather than give up after the first few lines of trying to decipher who
said or is saying what, thus also benefiting you).

> &
> the pipe character looked just fine in my fake OE6 reader, I will honor
> the requirements of your real one which can't seem to handle them.

No newsreader,to my knowledge, is designed to handle a pipe instead of a
caret to indicate quoted lines of text.

> OK,
> bye.

Toodle pip.



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of the keel of the most famous (or infamous) ocean liner of all time, RMS
Titanic, at Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast.
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic>

pcr
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by pcr »

Aardvark wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400, PCR wrote:
>
>>>> I guess. I changed it in both an OE setting & in an OE-QuoteFix
>>>> setting. Seems to have worked. But what was awful about it?
>>>
>>> Pictorial evidence of how awful the pipe character is in a real
>>> newsreader:
>>>
>>> <http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=125l15t&s=5>
>>>
>>> Pictorial evidence of how easy to read a post is when the correct
>>> quoting character is used (in a real newsreader):
>>>
>>> <http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vx2bus&s=5>
>>>
>>> Perhaps NOW you understand.
>>
>> OK. It's been done.
>
> So I'd noticed. Well done.

Right.

>> Although all R-arrows looks a tad monotonous to me
>
> They are the standard character in newsreaders for indicating quoted
> lines of text. Monotonous they may seem to you,but real newsreaders
> rely on them in order to correctly format posts for the reader. Note
> that in the second picture to which I linked that lines quoted from
> the previous poster, and the one before that, and the one before that
> have different colours depending on how many arrows are at the
> beginning of each line. This makes even very long posts which contain
> quoted lines from multiple previous posts easy to read, and also
> makes it easier to identify who said what previously.
>
> By changing your quotation character from the unconventional 'pipe' to
> the correct right-pointing caret, it's not just me you're pleasing,
> but all other news group subscribers with proper newsreaders who may
> read your posts (you are also ensuring that more eyes will peruse
> your posts rather than give up after the first few lines of trying to
> decipher who said or is saying what, thus also benefiting you).
>

I understand all that, but OE6 & OE-QuoteFix both include the pipe
character & even a colon to be used along with the right-pointing caret,
fake readers as they may be. And OE-QuoteFix even allows experimental
coloring! But, fine, you got it. I will honor the requirements of your n
ewsreader for most of the reasons stated.

>> &
>> the pipe character looked just fine in my fake OE6 reader, I will
>> honor the requirements of your real one which can't seem to handle
>> them.
>
> No newsreader,to my knowledge, is designed to handle a pipe instead
> of a caret to indicate quoted lines of text.

OE6 & predecessors does it!

>
>> OK,
>> bye.
>
> Toodle pip.

Bye.


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franc zabkar
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by franc zabkar »

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:43:25 GMT, Aardvark <aardvark@youllnever.know>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

|On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:45:33 -0400, PCR wrote:
|
|> the pipe character looked just fine in my fake OE6 reader, I will honor
|> the requirements of your real one which can't seem to handle them.
|
|No newsreader,to my knowledge, is designed to handle a pipe instead of a
|caret to indicate quoted lines of text.

Forte Agent can do it.

Tools -> Options -> Posting Messages -> Composition Window -> Prefix
for Quoted Lines.

Choose your own character.

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"j. p. gilliver
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by "j. p. gilliver »

In message <l76bu4djvn9b5b8p63s2ie2ts48i96ecap@4ax.com>, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> writes:
[]
>>Just because you can use a character other than the correct one to
>>signify quoted lines doesn't mean you should.
>
>I made no value judgment. I merely pointed out that there are non-MS
>newsreaders that will allow you to specify your own quote characters.
>In fact my own use of pipes is confined to DOS and ASCII art.
[]
Do the newsreaders that allow non-standard characters as quote
characters:

(a) treat quote characters in a special way, i. e. "recognise" them as
quote characters (i. e. treat quoted text differently, such as showing
it in a different colour)

(b) if (a) is "yes", do they recognise _non-standard_ characters in this
way? (If so, how do they know?)
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franc zabkar
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by franc zabkar »

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:20:30 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>In message <l76bu4djvn9b5b8p63s2ie2ts48i96ecap@4ax.com>, Franc Zabkar
><fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> writes:
>[]
>>>Just because you can use a character other than the correct one to
>>>signify quoted lines doesn't mean you should.
>>
>>I made no value judgment. I merely pointed out that there are non-MS
>>newsreaders that will allow you to specify your own quote characters.
>>In fact my own use of pipes is confined to DOS and ASCII art.
>[]
>Do the newsreaders that allow non-standard characters as quote
>characters:
>
>(a) treat quote characters in a special way, i. e. "recognise" them as
>quote characters (i. e. treat quoted text differently, such as showing
>it in a different colour)

Agent can be configured to recognise quote characters.

>(b) if (a) is "yes", do they recognise _non-standard_ characters in this
>way? (If so, how do they know?)

Tools -> Options -> Display -> Message Body Pane -> Quoted Text
Markers

You can add your own special characters. Agent appears to default to
the following three - >:|

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"j. p. gilliver
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Re: explorer "invalid page fault"

Post by "j. p. gilliver »

In message <gn2ku4530c5ta7ndb0jfb39erqg0rf2cv0@4ax.com>, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> writes:
[]
>>(b) if (a) is "yes", do they recognise _non-standard_ characters in this
>>way? (If so, how do they know?)
>
>Tools -> Options -> Display -> Message Body Pane -> Quoted Text
>Markers
>
>You can add your own special characters. Agent appears to default to
>the following three - >:|
[]
[What does _that_ emoticon signify (-:] So presumably you add the ones
used commonly in the emails/newsgroups you read often, and accept the
occasional misinterpretation where someone else just happens to use one
of those characters to start a line.
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