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chad harris
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Re: Trying to install Office Enterprise 2007.

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"susa320" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> :cry: Getting very frustrated here. Thinking I may have to call MS
> support
>
> Have to Remove Student Home Office 2007 Trial(non-commercial)first.
> Cannot remove through programs, Ccleaner or Revo Uninstaller. Somehow it
> mysteriously just went from "Trial" to "non commercial Trial"?
>
> I also had trouble when I originally installed the triall, they turned
> it off after a week, til I emailed them and they sent me a link.
> Probably Reman issue again, they probably thought I already had my trial
> period.
>
> Getting same 1402 error as many others here...since I cannot uninstall
> through Programs...going by "Article ID: 928218"....tried 4 times.
>
> I should point out this is a reman computer and I did have Office 2000
> on here before, before trying out the trial. May be some remnants left
> over.
>
> So there may also be possible remnants of Office 2000. Can I run the
> Installer Cleanup Utility(290301)after removing Office 2007, or will
> that mess up other programs? I'd rather not use it. What a mess....I
> know!
>
> Here we go.........................................
>
> I believe Error 1402 is pointing at:
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\.pcb\PCB File\ShellNew]
> although it says "UNKNOWN" rather than "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" in the
> error report that would be where the key is, wouldn't it? Or is there
> another key [xx??_XX??_XX??\.pcb\PCBFile\ShellNew] somewhere?
> Since MS doesn't want you to know where it is, in the error report.
>
> Said I don't have permission, so I was able to give full permission to
> ".pcb"
> but still same error. However when clicking on "PCB File" I get error
> cannot be opened...Access denied. I don't see "ShellNew" under that
> string either.
> Should I modify the PCB File and add that to it?
>
> (hide protected operating system files is not checked)
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Here's Office's Expanded Error Report:
> Microsoft Office Enterprise 2007 setup did not complete successfully.
> We are sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Problem signature:
> Problem Event Name: Office12Setup
> Problem Signature 01: {90120000-0030-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}
> Problem Signature 02: 12.0.4518.1014
> Problem Signature 03: RegisterExtensionInfo
> Problem Signature 04: 1603
> Problem Signature 05: 0x1402
> Problem Signature 06: Error 1402.Setup cannot open the registry
> key UNKNOWN\.pcb\PCBFile\ShellNew. Verify that you have suffic
> Problem Signature 07: X
> OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
> Locale ID: 1033
>
> Additional information about the problem:
> LCID: 1033
>
> Read our privacy statement:
> 'Microsoft Online Crash Analysis'
> (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid= ... cid=0x0409)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now when following the instructions in Article ID: 928218, I noticed
> some discrepancies. And missing some keys: (this is in the order article
> is set up)
>
> 1. In the Installer Folder Home and Student office msi file
> (11e087b.msi) will not uninstall. Can I just delete it?
>
> 2. Office 11 was also in Shared Folder. Should I REMOVE it?
> %CommonProgramFiles%\Microsoft Shared
>
> 3. No Reg Key here:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\*0FF1CE*
>
> 4. No Reg Key here:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UpgradeCodes
> \*F01FEC
>
> 5. No Reg Key here:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18
> \Products\*F01FEC
>
> BUT I HAVE CURRENT VERSION 1 and CURRENT VERSION 2 with Office keys in
> them. Would those be the ones to delete? Seems that may be where Home
> and Student Office is,
>
> Being a Reman, is that where the files would possibly now be located?
> So as it seems, I have NONE of these folders under "CurrentVersion"
> but under Current Version1" and "Current Version2"
> I have not deleted them yet.
>
> 6. No Reg Key here: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Features\*F01FEC
> or: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Products\*F01FEC
> or: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\UpgradeCodes\*F01FEC
> or: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Installer\Win32Assemblies\*Office12*
>
> 7. But win32 Assemblies has: c:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office12\ADDINS\msosec.dll
>
> 8. I do have 5 other Office Keys here; Maybe from Office 2000, they
> don't specify any Office product name and date is different from the
> Office 2007 keys.
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
> Should I remove them too? I'm thinking "YES"...not certain though.
>
> 9. I have Office 9, 10, 11, and 12 all under:
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office
>
> I was thinking about just saving my pics and docs and running the
> recovery disks, but
>
> I would imagine the Current Version 1 and 2 files will still be
> there...Reman and all.
>
> Maybe if I just remove everything that has to do with Office,
> I'll be able to install my Enterprise 2007. Hmmm?
> I am especially suspicious of Current Versions 1 and 2.
>
> Sorry for the mess...But I would appreciate any help I can get. :cry:
>
> Many, Many Thanks In Advance! ~ Susa
>
>
> --
> susa320

Hi susa320--


Have you tried following this:

How to uninstall the 2007 Office system if you cannot uninstall it by using
the "Add or Remove Programs" feature

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218

In my experience, following that, making sure that you shift+delete any and
all office associated files in your C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office folder
or whatever drive's program files it's installed to, and despite the fact
that the KB articles doesn't say it's for Office 2007, I use this
anyway--the WUCU. It won't uninstall anything but does get rid of corrupt
..dlls and registry orphan strings that are cluttering the uninstall and
future install path:

I had trouble uninstalling the trial as well I remember, and here's what I
did and posted back in April 2007--it worked for me then, and this is what I
posted on theMSFT Public Office Setup group (including the registry
workarounds I discovered I had to use):

> Absolutely you have to uninstall the trial first as everyone has said, and
> a segment of people have had problems doing so. I was one. The trial just
> wouldn't uninstall by regular means, and I always use the Windows
> Installer Cleanup Utility for major applications like Office to get rid of
> registry orphans and corrupt .dlls in the uninstall/and future install
> paths, but it wasn't enough. There is an MSKB that will help you if the
> trial refuses to uninstall.
>
> If anyone should run into trouble uninstalling the Office 2007 trial, Use
> this KB and do it very carefully even if you don't get the exact error
> message--this is the manual uninstall of Beta Office 2007:
>
> Error message after you remove the beta release version of a 2007 Office
> suite or program and then try to install the original release version of a
> 2007 Office suite or program: "Setup is unable to proceed"
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/en-us
>
> Some of us have noted that in Step 2 removal of the 4th reg subkey
> disables the remove or change button in Add/Remove, so you may have to
> restore it. That's why I'm telling you to backup the registry when you
> delete several sub keys or values:

File>Export>Sub key or Entire Registry radio button on the lower left>save
to the location of your choice. This is very important. Backup every reg
subkey
change you make in this particular MSKB. You can make a folder on your
desktop called Reg Backup and date it if you like.

This worked well for me.

Good luck,

CH

chad harris
Posts: 10
Joined: 21 Apr 2009, 23:00

Re: Trying to install Office Enterprise 2007.

Post by chad harris »

"susa320" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Getting same 1402 error as many others here...since I cannot uninstall
> through Programs...going by "Article ID: 928218"....tried 4 times."
>
> That's what I'm on now again for the 5th time....almost everything is
> back in there again...so something is not being deleted.
>
> That is why I suspect the Current Version 1 or 2, that are on
> here....they do contain Office 12 and 2007 folders...I'm thinking cause
> it's a reman...DK tho. :sarc:
>
> Do you have Current Versions 1 or 2 on your machine? I'm new to Vista.
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet.....has "Current Version1"
> and "Current Version2"
>
> I'll let ya know how it goes. i'm so baffled....so back to deleting I
> go.
>
> I might need some of those registry work arounds tho. :D
>
> So all these reg keys 928218 advises to delete and name DeletedKey01,
> 02, 03 and so on...just save in Documents?
>
> Thanks ~ Susa
>
>
> --
> susa320

Hi--

Did you try all my modfication suggestions I gave you and did you shift+
delete every file and folder related to Office in your C:\Programs\Microsoft
Office folder and anything else in C:\Program Files related remotelyt to
Office any edition since you seem to have installed more than one Office
edition on your box at one time or other.

You can save the reg keys are all the changes you make in the registry if
you like anywhere you want to browse to. I usually save them in documents,
but you can make a file anywhere, call it anything and save to it. It's
just a Save dialogue box pure and simple.

They are only having you save keys and if the key is named uninstall path
it's still only a reg key; you aren't saving an uninstall when you're saving
reg keys or subkeys.

Don't worry about what you can't uninstall at Add/Remove.

"Will the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility(290301) take care of the
rest? I'm afraid of the warning about using on 2007 Office products.
Heard it can and heard it can't be used with 2007."

There isn't a "warning" per se that I've seen about not using WUCU with
Office 2007. I've used it many times with it. However, understand what it
is as I've said. WUCU does not uninstall any of anything. It is not
meant to uninstall programs. It is meant to clean up the path for them to
uninstall and install and it does this fine for Windows 2007. It does not
directly uninstall the program, it destroys corrupt .dlls and registry
stings in the way of your uninstall and subsequent reinstalls. I've used it
several times for Office 2007 and it worked fine. Whether I needed to use
it to get the trial uninstalled or Office 2007 uninstalled, I don't know.

The directions I gave you to get the trial uninstalled when it's stubborn as
in your case work perfectly and using my mods help.

"Any Suggestions? Is it safe to try to install now? Or do I need to get
rid of those useless icons?" :sarc:

If you've followed that uninstall MSKB including doing exactly what I
described as to the mods (provided you have those keys or subkeys) and
***uninstalled every Office related file/and folder in C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office then you're done and I'd try installing your Office
Enterprisse 2007.***

I don't know what your AV program is, but I'd turn it off for the time
period you use to install that Office edition, just in case.

I'd use the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility as well. Then try to install.

Also what if I do have some remnants of Office 2000 left over
somewhere?

If you've shift+ deleted all Office related files and folders, they're gone.
I wouldn't worry about them. You didn't mention having any entries in
Add/Remove from Office 2K.

"Guess I'm afraid to try another install. I'm gonna give it a rest for
awhile. See if i get any suggestions."

":mad: Just tried again....same error. Guess I'm not the ruler of my
computer. no permission."

You just tried what? To install? What's the exact error? And what do you
mean about "no permission?" No permission from where to do what?

Don't be afraid to try another install of your Office if you've done all the
things I told you to do, and done a restart afterwards. The install should
work fine. You're not going to get many suggestions in this group although
I understand perfectly how you related it to a setup group for Vista.

You can post in the MSFT Public Office setup group, but again my post was
what a lot of people there used when they were having trouble getting rid of
the Office trial and the Office Betas whose uninstall were sometimes
problematic.

Good luck, and let me know how it goes. I know the feeling of working on
software problems for a long time. They almost become human to you, and you
lose track of time and want to win.

CH

chad harris
Posts: 10
Joined: 21 Apr 2009, 23:00

Re: Trying to install Office Enterprise 2007.

Post by chad harris »

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#gnhKRdzJHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Cad
>
> If using Office Enterprise and the OP is posting here for issues
> concerning the Enterprise version then it is a pirated version of Office
> Enterprise
>
> Support is FREE and freely given by Microsoft and ALL bonafide Office
> Enterprise downloads and DVD Media strongly suggests this per verbatim and
> printed as such when opening the install before it starts
>
> Here is my canned answer that is always posted in the Office newsgroups
> when anyone posts with an Enterprise issue
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> {canned answer)
> For Office Enterprise issues see the following. Support on this version is
> only
> available from MS or your IT Department and we cannot help you here with
> the Office
> Enterprise version.


Hi Peter--

I don't understand.

At
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/produ ... 0571081033

MSFT lists these versions of Office available:

Office Standard 2007
Office Home and Student 2007
Office Mobile
Office Small Business 2007
Office Professional 2007
Office Professional Plus 2007
Office Enterprise 2007
Office Ultimate 2007

How can you determine from a distance that the OP's Office isn't legit? And
I'm not getting paid by MSFT legal to police piracy for them. If they want
to pay me the billable hours that Brad Smith's (VP Legal Counsel MSFT) boys
and girls get at Redmond or they pay outside counsel, maybe I'll consider
joining their piracy squad. It really didn't make any difference to me
whether the OP was using Enterprise or one of the other editions of Office
they make; I had the problem with uninstalling their Beta in 2007, so I
tried to pass on what I learned to get it uninstalled.

Best,

CH

chad harris
Posts: 10
Joined: 21 Apr 2009, 23:00

Re: Trying to install Office Enterprise 2007.

Post by chad harris »

"susa320" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Same error would be the 1402 first error...as above. See if I can't post
> the image.
>
> I can't find anything that may be related to either Office 2007 or
> 2000, except in the recycle bin....I know I had a heck of a time
> installing it in Vista. Nothing like this tho.
>
> I granted full permission to it when I first got it, I am the only user
> and admin....I also changed all the permissions in regedit to allow me
> also full permissions and created special permissions in all
>
> Another website suggested to turn UAC on, tried it that way.
>
> So running the 290301 windows Installer Cleanup Utility should work
> alright.
> This is what scared me about it:
> *Warning* The Windows Installer CleanUp Utility is provided "as is" to
> help resolve installation problems for programs that use Microsoft
> Windows Installer. If you use this utility, you may have to reinstall
> other programs. Caution is advised. We recommend that you do not use
> this utility with 2007 Office system products. For help removing
> installations of 2007 Office system products, click the following
> article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
> '928218' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/)
> ('How to uninstall the 2007 Office system if you
> cannot uninstall it by using the \"Add or Remove Programs\" feature'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/) )
> How to uninstall the 2007 Office system if you cannot uninstall it
> by using the "Add or Remove Programs" feature.
>
> May go thru the 928218 again....I followed it to a T tho. I thought. I
> went thru it 5 times.
>
> [image:
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/ ... eError.jpg]
>
> Guess I'm gonna try the CleanUp Next.....errrr
>
> Thanks for all your help. I'll update. :D

Hi susa320--

When you try to install turn off your AV/Firewall. Sometimes they interfere
with an Office install although I haven't had it happen. Empty the recycle
bin. Try turning UAC off while you're trying to uninstall and install.
Try the permissions tweak in the link below. Don't worry about the legal
caveat that MSFT legal imposes on WUCU. They put that in fine print for
tons of software they make including Windows. Next time you see the PC-Mac
commercial Apple puts on the tube on the fine print, just smile. WUCU
isn't going to hurt anything, and it might help you get it out of there.
It's a good thing to run anytime is what I've extrapolated from Sloan
Crayton who writes a lot of the Office MSKBs and is expert in Office
setup/installs/uninstalls at Redmond. Maybe Sloan put the caveat up, but
I've used it several times with Office 2007 and it's not going to impact you
negatively with Office 2007.

I went thought that MSKB several times as well when I had a problem getting
the Office 2007 Beta off my box, but I had to use my mods to make it happen.
That's why I posted them on the Office setup group when they were
successful. It's not by any means an unknown problem, and most of the
solutions are like the ones I link below. Try my mods; try WUCU, and try
them all at ONE TIME.

This helps for some people with a 1402 error, and I don't think the OS
you're using is a factor.

"Had the same problem uninstalling the Home/Student version of Office 2007.
Got the 1402 error for .pps/PersistentHandler. So, I reset the permissions
as you described and wah-lah, it worked. Thanks!"

http://www.techsupportforum.com/microso ... -home.html

Some different solutions are here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... tnG=Search

Good luck,

CH

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