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thebig
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Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.

Post by thebig »

interesting comment
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/0 ... ows-7.aspx

of course i agree with all criticisms with vista the sht OS


# Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.

The first Microsoft thing that Microsoft have to do with Windows is to
offer al least the same functionality like Windows XP.

I think that Aero Peak, Aero Snap and Aero etc is very usefull and nice
things to an operating system but this things are not importan if the
operating system not offer at least the same functionality that Windows
XP do and this is the first thing that Microsoft have to do after
developings new features as Aero Gadgets.

In my company and our customers dont like Windows Vista and stick with
Windows XP because only few and little things that Microsoft can correct
it very easily:

1. Expand "All Programs" in Start Menu. Windows XP can do it. Vista and
Seven can't.

2. I want to order the "All Programs" in Start Menu. I disable de option
to not order Programs alphabetically, but every time i restart the
computer or install a new program the "All Programs" menu sorted
alphabetically automatically. This occurs in Windows Vista and not fixed
in Windows Seven. What are Microsoft doing this three years with Windows
Seven? Correcting bugs and fails or adding touching capabilities and
Aero Peaks, Aero Snaps, Aero etc's...?

3. The possibility to customize Windows Explorer toolbar. Windows 95 to
XP can do it. Vista and Seven can't. Most users requiered the "Up
Folder" button in Windows Explorer toolbar and not need the options that
Microsoft put in this toolbar that cant change it.

4. The ability to catalog music in Windows Media Player Library AT LEAST
like WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 10. Imposible to catalog in Windows Media
Player 11 and 12 because is only album centric and in Windows 7
Microsoft remove the advanced tag editor.

5. If a antispyware program tells me to delete a file called "spy.dll"
stored in C:\Windows\System32, can someone tells me how to search this
file in Windows Vista or Seven? Very complex and a lot of clicks in
Vista ans Seven.

Or if i'm a developer or a technical and i want to find a file in the
system or windows folder is very complex to me to find it. For example i
want to search the host file to modify it, or to find the winipcfg
application. Windows Search is not valid to a very lot of users.

6. Removing tabs controls in some Control Panel options and in more
places in all Windows, makes all things more complicated and make doings
actions more slowly and with more clicks than in Windows XP. For
example, in Windows XP, in the "Appearance" option i cant change the
background wallpaper, the screensaver and more things only with one
click to change between options. In Windows Vista the same thing is
going back and double clicking in other option making changing any
option very frustrating.

If some work with Internet Information Server 7 in Windows Server 2008
this same topic of removing tabs is more frustrating making to "Go back"
continuously to change between options. Why Microsoft is removing the
tab control and making all things more complicate, more complex, more
slower, and less practical.

Microsoft need to think that all Windows users are acomodate to a user
interface for more that 10 years since Windows 95. Microsoft cant change
this from one day to another. Microsoft must offer at least the same
functionality and compatibility like Windows XP does. Microsoft cant
remove features and cant remove behaviors because all users are
acomodate with this.

The Office 2007 toolbar is usefull and good, but Microsoft must put an
option to configure it with older menu's and older behaviour because
most users are accomodate to it and needs time to change to a new user
interface and behaviour. Need to do the same with Windows Vista and Seven.

A user does become to first use Windows Vista is frustrating because its
imposible to use it in the same manner like Windows XP do. Its imposible
to "Go up folder" because the icon not exist, imposible to search
because indexing is not complete, imposible to find things in the caotic
"Control Panel", imposible to do the same things that do with Windows
XP, and this is the REASON of why this user and all of mayority of users
return to Windows XP and discard Windows Vista.

The first reason of the Windows Vista fiasco is not perfomance,
compatibility or features. The first REASON is that users are acomodate
for more than 10 years with a user interface and changing it at all is
frustrating users.

I have a computers company and the mayority of users come back and asked
to downgrade to Windows XP because its imposible to work with Vista.
Only a few users have complained about the performance or compatibily of
Windows Vista.

Microsoft needs to offer the same Windows XP functionality, the same
Windows Explorer, the same customizations.

And when all of this is complete, then add new feature like Aero Snaps,
Aero Peaks, Aero Tips, Aero Chips, Aero Tricks and so on.

Today Windows Vista or Seven is not for me. Why? Because I cant expand
"All Programs" in "Star Menu", cant customize my Windows Explorer
toolbar (the options included are not valid for me) and its imposible to
me to find the files i want to find and imposible to me to catalog music
with Windows Media Player 11 or 12. I'm stick in Windows XP with Windows
Media Player 10 as the vast majority of users.

When i see Windows Vista or Seven and think that is an operating system
for domestic users only or for multimedia users only. Windows Explorer
in Vista and Seven is focusly on media files. But what about companies,
technicals, developers and so on. When I open a developer folder project
in Vista or Seven i see it like media files. This is incongruent for an
operating system. And operating system must cover all kind of users. Not
the mayority of users. This is the cause of the fiasco of Vista.
Companies, technicals and developers dont want and operating system do
only for media or domestic users (the mayority of users).

All technical, developers and so on need the ability of customize the
operating system like Windows 95 to Windows XP do. Don't like a closed
operating system. If i want it i buy a Mac.

Microsoft needs to think seriously and slowly two things:

1. Cant change a behaviour and a user interface that users are acomodate
for more than 10 years. Changing it makes rejection of users.

2. Think not only in the mayority of users. Think of all users,
especially technicals, devolopers and more.

When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
to them.

What happened with Windows Vista?

Microsoft think, please think.

"If I want a Mac, I buy a Mac, not Windows Vista or Seven."
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:15 AM by JaviAl

frank
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ml's got his panties all in a bunch!...LOL!

Post by frank »

Mark Levitski wrote:
-----------------------------
Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
OS available today?

+bob+
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Joined: 05 Jun 2009, 23:00

Re: Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.

Post by +bob+ »

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:


>When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>to them.
>
>What happened with Windows Vista?
>
>Microsoft think, please think.

What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
"focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.

They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
(but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
what you need!)

frank
Posts: 3
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 23:00

Re: Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.

Post by frank »

+Bob+ wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>
>
>> When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>> and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>> housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>> develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>> to them.
>>
>> What happened with Windows Vista?
>>
>> Microsoft think, please think.
>
> What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
> "focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
> want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.

You've been a member of one of these "focus groups"?
>
> They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
> (but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
> what you need!)

So Microsoft spends millions on market research and then they totally
ignore the findings?
You think anyone, other than those who hate Microsoft (like you do)
believe that statement?

charles w davis
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Joined: 05 Jun 2009, 23:00

Re: Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.

Post by charles w davis »

Frank,

You might come to the conclusion that what Microsoft is doing is exactly
what the market research findings showed.
"Frank" <fb@fuk.you> wrote in message news:4a2ac28d$1@news.x-privat.org...
> +Bob+ wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>>> and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>>> housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>>> develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>>> to them.
>>>
>>> What happened with Windows Vista?
>>>
>>> Microsoft think, please think.
>>
>> What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
>> "focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
>> want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
>
> You've been a member of one of these "focus groups"?
>>
>> They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
>> (but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
>> what you need!)
>
> So Microsoft spends millions on market research and then they totally
> ignore the findings?
> You think anyone, other than those who hate Microsoft (like you do)
> believe that statement?
>

+bob+
Posts: 2
Joined: 05 Jun 2009, 23:00

Re: ml's got his panties all in a bunch!...LOL!

Post by +bob+ »

On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:58:11 -0700, Frank <fb@fuk.you> wrote:

>Mark Levitski wrote:
>-----------------------------
>Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
>OS available today?

Best according to who? MS seems to be in a serious hurry to replace it
for an OS that's "the best".

frank
Posts: 3
Joined: 04 Jun 2009, 23:00

Re: ml's got his panties all in a bunch!...LOL!

Post by frank »

+Bob+ wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:58:11 -0700, Frank <fb@fuk.you> wrote:
>
>> Mark Levitski wrote:
>> -----------------------------
>> Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
>> OS available today?
>
> Best according to who?

According to what is current available at retail level, Vista Ultimate
is the best choice.

MS seems to be in a serious hurry to replace it
for an OS that's "the best".

Really?
You're not aware of the usual replacement/upgrade OS cycle that MS
usually keeps (or tries to keep), are you?
Obviously, you're not.

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