98 Guy <98@Guy.com> wrote in news:4A3B8F0F.DF0023F5@Guy.com:
<SNIP>
Why bother with seriously-flawed "file mangers/file finders" ?
I never ever use WE, and file find EXTREMELY rarely.
Get a real file manager with 2 panes, super-find, custom multi-
rename, FTP, branch view, and dozens of other features built in
and forget about the limitations of Windows "utilities". I use
Total Commander. Free Commander is prettier but has almost the
same features I believe, and is free, for the more frugal folks.
--
Lots of theoretical butchers are alleged and other bloody eyes
are suitable, but will Pam secure that?
Win-98 file-find -> what is it, or where does it live?
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Re: Win-98 file-find -> what is it, or where does it live?
> But the Find -> files or folders function on win-98 does not seem to be
> linked to or a part of explorer.exe.
> Hence my question - is there a separate .exe or .dll that contains the
> file-find application, or is it an intrinsic part of one of the system
> files (kernel, etc) ???
I allways thought that the Find files window was part of the same
thing that draw the taskbar and start menu in Windows98?
About that btw, why the heck isn't the "program" Systray's
functionality included in that? if you kill the Systray process
then the clock and its little systray area is still painted
but without the volume control in it (but still icons from
other programs). Is "systray" the volume control application?
> On win-98, when you invoke or run explorer, you will note there is no
> file "search" or "find" option to be found (at least I don't see it).
> On XP, explorer does have a search button.
hehe.. you are right!
I have never seen that it is missing though, since I allways
press F3 to search for files when in an file manager window
(and yes it is logically wrong key since F3 should mean
"find next" but MS tend to not do things consistently....)
Now when I try to find a search command in the file manager windows
I do stumble upon View/Explorer field/Search though - but that isn't
for file search I believe, it is for web search with microsofts
newly renamed MSN search... some controls and MSN's new name
(so it must have contacted internet allready there to know it!)
appears in area to the left in the window.... together with and
error/crash dialogbox about "Automation server can't create object" :-/
> While running CCtask, I don't see any new process pop up, nor any new
> module being loaded by any currently-running process, when I invoke
I haven't played with these kind of things, but thought about it...
where can I find CCtask to try and how do I use it?
> linked to or a part of explorer.exe.
> Hence my question - is there a separate .exe or .dll that contains the
> file-find application, or is it an intrinsic part of one of the system
> files (kernel, etc) ???
I allways thought that the Find files window was part of the same
thing that draw the taskbar and start menu in Windows98?
About that btw, why the heck isn't the "program" Systray's
functionality included in that? if you kill the Systray process
then the clock and its little systray area is still painted
but without the volume control in it (but still icons from
other programs). Is "systray" the volume control application?
> On win-98, when you invoke or run explorer, you will note there is no
> file "search" or "find" option to be found (at least I don't see it).
> On XP, explorer does have a search button.
hehe.. you are right!
I have never seen that it is missing though, since I allways
press F3 to search for files when in an file manager window
(and yes it is logically wrong key since F3 should mean
"find next" but MS tend to not do things consistently....)
Now when I try to find a search command in the file manager windows
I do stumble upon View/Explorer field/Search though - but that isn't
for file search I believe, it is for web search with microsofts
newly renamed MSN search... some controls and MSN's new name
(so it must have contacted internet allready there to know it!)
appears in area to the left in the window.... together with and
error/crash dialogbox about "Automation server can't create object" :-/
> While running CCtask, I don't see any new process pop up, nor any new
> module being loaded by any currently-running process, when I invoke
I haven't played with these kind of things, but thought about it...
where can I find CCtask to try and how do I use it?
Re: Win-98 file-find -> what is it, or where does it live?
It must be hidden in a dll somewhere as it does not show up as a
process while looking at 2 different process managers.
98 Guy wrote:
> On XP, the "Search for files or folders" function from the start menu
> simply invokes another instance of explorer.exe.
>
> But the Find -> files or folders function on win-98 does not seem to be
> linked to or a part of explorer.exe.
>
> On win-98, when you invoke or run explorer, you will note there is no
> file "search" or "find" option to be found (at least I don't see it).
> On XP, explorer does have a search button.
>
> While running CCtask, I don't see any new process pop up, nor any new
> module being loaded by any currently-running process, when I invoke
> Find-Files or Folders on win-98.
>
> Hence my question - is there a separate .exe or .dll that contains the
> file-find application, or is it an intrinsic part of one of the system
> files (kernel, etc) ???
>
> I'd really like to "graft" win-98's file-find into XP (or find a third
> party substitute that acts identically) but such an animal doesn't seem
> to exist. I despise XP's file-find mechanism, even when configured in
> it's most basic or "classic" operating mode.
>
> Anyone know offhand how win-2k's file-find looks? Is it also just an
> instance of explorer.exe? Does it behave more like win-98's file-find?
> If so, can it be "grafted" into XP?
process while looking at 2 different process managers.
98 Guy wrote:
> On XP, the "Search for files or folders" function from the start menu
> simply invokes another instance of explorer.exe.
>
> But the Find -> files or folders function on win-98 does not seem to be
> linked to or a part of explorer.exe.
>
> On win-98, when you invoke or run explorer, you will note there is no
> file "search" or "find" option to be found (at least I don't see it).
> On XP, explorer does have a search button.
>
> While running CCtask, I don't see any new process pop up, nor any new
> module being loaded by any currently-running process, when I invoke
> Find-Files or Folders on win-98.
>
> Hence my question - is there a separate .exe or .dll that contains the
> file-find application, or is it an intrinsic part of one of the system
> files (kernel, etc) ???
>
> I'd really like to "graft" win-98's file-find into XP (or find a third
> party substitute that acts identically) but such an animal doesn't seem
> to exist. I despise XP's file-find mechanism, even when configured in
> it's most basic or "classic" operating mode.
>
> Anyone know offhand how win-2k's file-find looks? Is it also just an
> instance of explorer.exe? Does it behave more like win-98's file-find?
> If so, can it be "grafted" into XP?