On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:49:51 +1000, "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>
>"MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:OaBby%23XWKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> For *you* to continue in this discussion YOU have to supply test
>> results proving the safety of these files and no adverse impact.
>> Where are the links to those test results.
>
>What part of "You don't get to call the shots" are you finding difficulty
>with?
>
Sunny, I just put him/her on a kill file. I am tired of reading his
post anyhow.
Greg
MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer
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bill blanton
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Re: MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explor
"MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eg0GgFRWKHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Bill Blanton wrote:
>> "Rasta Robert" <rr@dds.nl.ReMoVe_ThIs.invalid> wrote in message news:slrnhek09k.1j8k.rr@xs6.xs4all.nl...
>>> On 2009-10-29, MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
>>>>
>>> Stop spamming the same text over and over, please.
>>
>> I second the motion..
>>
>> It's become ridiculous.
>>
>
> I have a recommendation, stop posting in this discussion since the
> Summary and Conclusion was placed.
Ah!.. the "Summary and Conclusion". I must have missed it.
If you can't carry on an intelligent conversation with particular people,
and have to resort to name calling and those inane canned troll responses,
I suggest you just ignore them. Here you go,, I'll give you an example of
ignoring a troll.. Respond to this post to get the full effect..
> Bill Blanton wrote:
>> "Rasta Robert" <rr@dds.nl.ReMoVe_ThIs.invalid> wrote in message news:slrnhek09k.1j8k.rr@xs6.xs4all.nl...
>>> On 2009-10-29, MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
>>>>
>>> Stop spamming the same text over and over, please.
>>
>> I second the motion..
>>
>> It's become ridiculous.
>>
>
> I have a recommendation, stop posting in this discussion since the
> Summary and Conclusion was placed.
Ah!.. the "Summary and Conclusion". I must have missed it.
If you can't carry on an intelligent conversation with particular people,
and have to resort to name calling and those inane canned troll responses,
I suggest you just ignore them. Here you go,, I'll give you an example of
ignoring a troll.. Respond to this post to get the full effect..
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"j. p. gilliver
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Re: MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explor
In message <#sKcDQQWKHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Bill Blanton
<bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> writes:
>"Rasta Robert" <rr@dds.nl.ReMoVe_ThIs.invalid> wrote in message
>news:slrnhek09k.1j8k.rr@xs6.xs4all.nl...
>> On 2009-10-29, MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
>>>
>>
>> Stop spamming the same text over and over, please.
>
>I second the motion..
>
>It's become ridiculous.
>
>
>
He has promised to post it _whenever_ any of several of us post
_anything_ - I think he even said "in any thread"; I suppose it is his
right. (How it makes him look is not my concern.)
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<bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> writes:
>"Rasta Robert" <rr@dds.nl.ReMoVe_ThIs.invalid> wrote in message
>news:slrnhek09k.1j8k.rr@xs6.xs4all.nl...
>> On 2009-10-29, MEB <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> WARNING DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
>>>
>>
>> Stop spamming the same text over and over, please.
>
>I second the motion..
>
>It's become ridiculous.
>
>
>
He has promised to post it _whenever_ any of several of us post
_anything_ - I think he even said "in any thread"; I suppose it is his
right. (How it makes him look is not my concern.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **
The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. -e.e. cummings, poet
(1894-1962)
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Re: MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explor
In message <OTMKmHFWKHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, MEB
<MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> writes:
>98 Guy wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>
>NOTICE AND SUMMARY
>
>NOTICE:
> This was yet another attempt by this entity to bring another useless
>discussion and which will contain NOTHING of value from 98 Guy.
> Useless purported arguments will be submitted to which I am supposed to
>respond to so 98 Guy [or sockpuppets] can then have something to do,
Too many "to"s in there (and a repetition of this "sockpuppet" thing,
whatever that is).
>while I, supposedly, dance on string providing a never ending series of
>explanations or countering arguments to lame materials.
Dance away (-:
>
>** WARNING DO NOT FEED THIS TROLL IN PARTICULAR **
>
> The entity above, 98 Guy, for which this Notice was applied to, has
"for which this notice was applied to"?
>been repeatedly identified as troll and Usenet abuser. The history
Only by you. Whereas the entity MEB has been identified as a PITA by
several of us. (And yet can still post short, calm, and helpful answers
sometimes.)
[]
> On 10/18/09 98 Guy brought the suggestion to this group to install
>files from supposed compatible versions from MS09-054 into Win9X for
>Internet Explorer 6 Sp1.
"suggestion". He wasn't ordering anyone to.
>
> *Note specifically*, there are a series of tests which must be done by
>this 98 Guy [or links to those tests for review] to prove the issues
>brought here in this discussion, the installation impact and safety of
>installing these files into Windows 98.
As another has said, you don't call the shots. There's nothing he "must"
do.
> Instead of doing so, arguments are placed over 10 days by 98 Guy and
>others, of:
> impossibility;
> unreasonableness;
> that *I* am supposed to provide the tests;
What's wrong with that suggestion? You say he should, he (and others)
say you should; I'd say that's about even.
[]
> and numerous other lame arguments and excuses, purportedly backing the
>stance of 98 Guy.
Anything that doesn't agree with you is a "lame argument or excuse" - by
your definition only.
>
> Various other parties have also entered into this discussion
>purportedly to bring other viable issues though apparently more to
>discredit me than bring anything of value; a standard troll entered, and
You're so easy to discredit, it's sometimes irresistible (-:
>a sockpuppet [at least one].
That word again. From the way you use it, I presume it's supposed to be
an insult; however, insults aren't effective if those insulted don't
know what they mean! (I had a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet, but am none the wiser as to
either why it's supposed to be an insult, or how it applies to this
thread. Perhaps you will amend the Wikipedia article ...)
> Each of these parties were assigned some test or questions to answer to
You can hand out the exam papers as much as you like.
[]
> Ten days of responses describing exactly WHY these files should not be
>placed within Windows 9X without test results and verification have been
>provided by me, the PRIMARY being there are no tests that:
>
>1. back up their installation safety within the 9X system;
>
>2. any other adverse application impact does not occur, including upon
>AV and other malware programs; and,
>
>3. there are no new unknown vulnerabilities, verses the well known
(versUs)
>vulnerabilities checked for and protected (mostly) that are found within
>EOL Win98 and resultant IE6 SP1 level by various presently offered
>malware applications and otherwise.
You don't want much, do you! Testing for all of that lot would take
forever - possibly literally, since you want unknown things tested for
too. And if you're going to apply similar criteria to any suggestion,
nothing will ever be done to improve '98 again. Which of course may be
what you want - a sort of preserved in aspic thing, like you find in the
more old-fashioned museums. Some people actually want to _use_ it,
though.
[]
> Regarding 98 Guy:
>
> Please do NOT respond to this entity 98 Guy or what they post. Attempts
>to hold actual intelligent discussions are futile.
Ditto for MEB - in this thread, anyway.
[]
> For another example, 98 Guy has repeatedly brought the supposed
>legality of stolen software for discussion in this group and argued it
>from every conceivable angle, even BRAGGING of stealing software via
Now there we are in agreement: 98g is at the extreme end of the spectrum
where this matter is concerned. You are probably close to the other end,
or at least appear to wish to seem so.
[]
> I am creating additional web pages to show the exact reasons for this
>identification and will post links in a standard Usenet WARNING as they
>are added.
(There is no such thing as a "standard Usenet WARNING"; I presume you
mean one of YOUR textfiles, like the troll one, which have all become so
bored with. Of course, I expect I'll be in one of them.)
>
> 98 Guy will surely respond to this post or one of the sockpuppets will,
>so the response WILL be the Usenet Troll warning.
>
I'd almost be disappointed if it wasn't (-:
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **
The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. -e.e. cummings, poet
(1894-1962)
<MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> writes:
>98 Guy wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>
>NOTICE AND SUMMARY
>
>NOTICE:
> This was yet another attempt by this entity to bring another useless
>discussion and which will contain NOTHING of value from 98 Guy.
> Useless purported arguments will be submitted to which I am supposed to
>respond to so 98 Guy [or sockpuppets] can then have something to do,
Too many "to"s in there (and a repetition of this "sockpuppet" thing,
whatever that is).
>while I, supposedly, dance on string providing a never ending series of
>explanations or countering arguments to lame materials.
Dance away (-:
>
>** WARNING DO NOT FEED THIS TROLL IN PARTICULAR **
>
> The entity above, 98 Guy, for which this Notice was applied to, has
"for which this notice was applied to"?
>been repeatedly identified as troll and Usenet abuser. The history
Only by you. Whereas the entity MEB has been identified as a PITA by
several of us. (And yet can still post short, calm, and helpful answers
sometimes.)
[]
> On 10/18/09 98 Guy brought the suggestion to this group to install
>files from supposed compatible versions from MS09-054 into Win9X for
>Internet Explorer 6 Sp1.
"suggestion". He wasn't ordering anyone to.
>
> *Note specifically*, there are a series of tests which must be done by
>this 98 Guy [or links to those tests for review] to prove the issues
>brought here in this discussion, the installation impact and safety of
>installing these files into Windows 98.
As another has said, you don't call the shots. There's nothing he "must"
do.
> Instead of doing so, arguments are placed over 10 days by 98 Guy and
>others, of:
> impossibility;
> unreasonableness;
> that *I* am supposed to provide the tests;
What's wrong with that suggestion? You say he should, he (and others)
say you should; I'd say that's about even.
[]
> and numerous other lame arguments and excuses, purportedly backing the
>stance of 98 Guy.
Anything that doesn't agree with you is a "lame argument or excuse" - by
your definition only.
>
> Various other parties have also entered into this discussion
>purportedly to bring other viable issues though apparently more to
>discredit me than bring anything of value; a standard troll entered, and
You're so easy to discredit, it's sometimes irresistible (-:
>a sockpuppet [at least one].
That word again. From the way you use it, I presume it's supposed to be
an insult; however, insults aren't effective if those insulted don't
know what they mean! (I had a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet, but am none the wiser as to
either why it's supposed to be an insult, or how it applies to this
thread. Perhaps you will amend the Wikipedia article ...)
> Each of these parties were assigned some test or questions to answer to
You can hand out the exam papers as much as you like.
[]
> Ten days of responses describing exactly WHY these files should not be
>placed within Windows 9X without test results and verification have been
>provided by me, the PRIMARY being there are no tests that:
>
>1. back up their installation safety within the 9X system;
>
>2. any other adverse application impact does not occur, including upon
>AV and other malware programs; and,
>
>3. there are no new unknown vulnerabilities, verses the well known
(versUs)
>vulnerabilities checked for and protected (mostly) that are found within
>EOL Win98 and resultant IE6 SP1 level by various presently offered
>malware applications and otherwise.
You don't want much, do you! Testing for all of that lot would take
forever - possibly literally, since you want unknown things tested for
too. And if you're going to apply similar criteria to any suggestion,
nothing will ever be done to improve '98 again. Which of course may be
what you want - a sort of preserved in aspic thing, like you find in the
more old-fashioned museums. Some people actually want to _use_ it,
though.
[]
> Regarding 98 Guy:
>
> Please do NOT respond to this entity 98 Guy or what they post. Attempts
>to hold actual intelligent discussions are futile.
Ditto for MEB - in this thread, anyway.
[]
> For another example, 98 Guy has repeatedly brought the supposed
>legality of stolen software for discussion in this group and argued it
>from every conceivable angle, even BRAGGING of stealing software via
Now there we are in agreement: 98g is at the extreme end of the spectrum
where this matter is concerned. You are probably close to the other end,
or at least appear to wish to seem so.
[]
> I am creating additional web pages to show the exact reasons for this
>identification and will post links in a standard Usenet WARNING as they
>are added.
(There is no such thing as a "standard Usenet WARNING"; I presume you
mean one of YOUR textfiles, like the troll one, which have all become so
bored with. Of course, I expect I'll be in one of them.)
>
> 98 Guy will surely respond to this post or one of the sockpuppets will,
>so the response WILL be the Usenet Troll warning.
>
I'd almost be disappointed if it wasn't (-:
--
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **
The most wasted of all days is one without laughter. -e.e. cummings, poet
(1894-1962)
Re: MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explor
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> In message <OTMKmHFWKHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, MEB
Oh shut up you friggin child...
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> In message <OTMKmHFWKHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, MEB
Oh shut up you friggin child...
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http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
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http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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Re: MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explor
Can you recognise someone who is feeding a troll?
"MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%238BkYj0WKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> snip <
>
> Does your mommy know your playing with the computer again..
"MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%238BkYj0WKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> snip <
>
> Does your mommy know your playing with the computer again..
Re: MS09-054: Cumulative security update for Internet Explor
Jeff Richards wrote:
> Can you recognise someone who is feeding a troll?
>
> "MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%238BkYj0WKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> snip <
>>
>> Does your mommy know your playing with the computer again..
>
>
Can you recognize someone who caught two...
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http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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> Can you recognise someone who is feeding a troll?
>
> "MEB" <MEB-not-here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%238BkYj0WKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> snip <
>>
>> Does your mommy know your playing with the computer again..
>
>
Can you recognize someone who caught two...
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MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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