An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work. Then I got another
error message: "Windows could not start because the following file is missing
or corrupt: Windows root.\system 32\hal.dll. Please reinstall a copy of the
above file." I found some articles on how to reinsal the file with the XP
recovery disks, but I have some questions.
My questions:
1) I have 2 OSs installed (XP Pro and XP Home) because that's how my
computer guy did it. Since XP Pro is the default, I'm assuming that is the
disk I use. However, I don't think I have those disks, so what can I do?
2) Is it possible that starting in Safe Mode will fix this, instead of
recovery disks? I can't seem to get to that page, even though I have pressed
F8 when I was able to get to the boot loader page or BIOS page, but it won't
work.
3) I have had many issues with the electricity going out and wrecking things
on my computer, not to mention killing my fax machine. Last time it happened,
Outlook reverted to 2006. I have the computer on a surge protector, which
obviously was of no use in this case. I also have it hooked up to a UBS but
that doesn't really help me when I am not home when the electricity goes out.
And I don't want to turn my computer off, mid-project, just because I'm
leaving my home office for a couple of hours. Besides a lightning rod and a
standby generator, is there a solution to this so this won't happen again?
Fortunately, my files are backed up by Carbonite, but I would rather get
this computer working without reformatting the hard drive, since I have too
many projects to take the time to install everything again right now.
Thank you for your help!
Electricity Outage Caused Windows Error (won't Reboot)
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nesredep egrob
- Posts: 1
- Joined: 09 Nov 2009, 00:00
Re: Electricity Outage Caused Windows Error (won't Reboot)
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:18:31 -0000, "DL" <notvalid@spoofaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>There isnt an Outlook 2006 so you are stating the impossible
>XP Pro & Xp Home, why an earth, complete waste of time, get rid of XpHome
>As previously said buy a UPS and configure it correctly that way it will
>shutdown the PC if you are away, and if you cannot save any data prior to
>going out, then what can anyone say.
>
>"jviren" <jviren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:7C399078-408E-4B98-8ECE-409BCB8BFB7E@microsoft.com...
>> An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
>> problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
>> error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
>> Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work. Then I got
>> another
>> error message: "Windows could not start because the following file is
>> missing
>> or corrupt: Windows root.\system 32\hal.dll. Please reinstall a copy of
>> the
>> above file." I found some articles on how to reinsal the file with the XP
>> recovery disks, but I have some questions.
>>
>> My questions:
>> 1) I have 2 OSs installed (XP Pro and XP Home) because that's how my
>> computer guy did it. Since XP Pro is the default, I'm assuming that is the
>> disk I use. However, I don't think I have those disks, so what can I do?
>> 2) Is it possible that starting in Safe Mode will fix this, instead of
>> recovery disks? I can't seem to get to that page, even though I have
>> pressed
>> F8 when I was able to get to the boot loader page or BIOS page, but it
>> won't
>> work.
>> 3) I have had many issues with the electricity going out and wrecking
>> things
>> on my computer, not to mention killing my fax machine. Last time it
>> happened,
>> Outlook reverted to 2006. I have the computer on a surge protector, which
>> obviously was of no use in this case. I also have it hooked up to a UBS
>> but
>> that doesn't really help me when I am not home when the electricity goes
>> out.
>> And I don't want to turn my computer off, mid-project, just because I'm
>> leaving my home office for a couple of hours. Besides a lightning rod and
>> a
>> standby generator, is there a solution to this so this won't happen again?
>>
>> Fortunately, my files are backed up by Carbonite, but I would rather get
>> this computer working without reformatting the hard drive, since I have
>> too
>> many projects to take the time to install everything again right now.
>>
>> Thank you for your help!
>>
>
You cannot always depend on a UPS - Was in the bathroom the other day when we
had a split second brown out - as a normal thing all clocks had to be reset but
the computer had rebooted and was awaiting password - strange as I have a UPS.
So I input the password and the computer was running like normal - thought -
what is going on the computer should have stayed up - experiment - removed the
power input to the UPS and the computer was still running with a few beeps -
left it running for 30 seconds - no trouble - reconnected mains input. I am
still puzzled at the way the computer behaved for a 1/10 second brown out - any
ideas
It has to be good - I was a TV tech before I retired so I thought I knew a thing
or two about power and electricity
B??rge in sunny Perth, Australia
>There isnt an Outlook 2006 so you are stating the impossible
>XP Pro & Xp Home, why an earth, complete waste of time, get rid of XpHome
>As previously said buy a UPS and configure it correctly that way it will
>shutdown the PC if you are away, and if you cannot save any data prior to
>going out, then what can anyone say.
>
>"jviren" <jviren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:7C399078-408E-4B98-8ECE-409BCB8BFB7E@microsoft.com...
>> An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
>> problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
>> error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
>> Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work. Then I got
>> another
>> error message: "Windows could not start because the following file is
>> missing
>> or corrupt: Windows root.\system 32\hal.dll. Please reinstall a copy of
>> the
>> above file." I found some articles on how to reinsal the file with the XP
>> recovery disks, but I have some questions.
>>
>> My questions:
>> 1) I have 2 OSs installed (XP Pro and XP Home) because that's how my
>> computer guy did it. Since XP Pro is the default, I'm assuming that is the
>> disk I use. However, I don't think I have those disks, so what can I do?
>> 2) Is it possible that starting in Safe Mode will fix this, instead of
>> recovery disks? I can't seem to get to that page, even though I have
>> pressed
>> F8 when I was able to get to the boot loader page or BIOS page, but it
>> won't
>> work.
>> 3) I have had many issues with the electricity going out and wrecking
>> things
>> on my computer, not to mention killing my fax machine. Last time it
>> happened,
>> Outlook reverted to 2006. I have the computer on a surge protector, which
>> obviously was of no use in this case. I also have it hooked up to a UBS
>> but
>> that doesn't really help me when I am not home when the electricity goes
>> out.
>> And I don't want to turn my computer off, mid-project, just because I'm
>> leaving my home office for a couple of hours. Besides a lightning rod and
>> a
>> standby generator, is there a solution to this so this won't happen again?
>>
>> Fortunately, my files are backed up by Carbonite, but I would rather get
>> this computer working without reformatting the hard drive, since I have
>> too
>> many projects to take the time to install everything again right now.
>>
>> Thank you for your help!
>>
>
You cannot always depend on a UPS - Was in the bathroom the other day when we
had a split second brown out - as a normal thing all clocks had to be reset but
the computer had rebooted and was awaiting password - strange as I have a UPS.
So I input the password and the computer was running like normal - thought -
what is going on the computer should have stayed up - experiment - removed the
power input to the UPS and the computer was still running with a few beeps -
left it running for 30 seconds - no trouble - reconnected mains input. I am
still puzzled at the way the computer behaved for a 1/10 second brown out - any
ideas
It has to be good - I was a TV tech before I retired so I thought I knew a thing
or two about power and electricity
B??rge in sunny Perth, Australia
Re: Electricity Outage Caused Windows Error (won't Reboot)
On Nov 8, 5:01
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patrick keenan
- Posts: 23
- Joined: 05 Mar 2009, 00:00
Re: Electricity Outage Caused Windows Error (won't Reboot)
"jviren" <jviren@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7C399078-408E-4B98-8ECE-409BCB8BFB7E@microsoft.com...
> An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
> problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
> error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
> Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work. Then I got
> another
> error message: "Windows could not start because the following file is
> missing
> or corrupt: Windows root.\system 32\hal.dll. Please reinstall a copy of
> the
> above file." I found some articles on how to reinsal the file with the XP
> recovery disks, but I have some questions.
>
> My questions:
> 1) I have 2 OSs installed (XP Pro and XP Home) because that's how my
> computer guy did it.
Why?
> Since XP Pro is the default, I'm assuming that is the
> disk I use.
Why?
> However, I don't think I have those disks, so what can I do?
Why on earth do you not have the reinstall disks for the OS?
If this is how your "computer guy did it", get the disks from him.
> 2) Is it possible that starting in Safe Mode will fix this,
This specific problem can be related to a boot.ini issue, and that can be
fixed without the specific install disks. If you can get into Safe Mode,
you have already fixed the problem.
For example,
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm
> instead of
> recovery disks? I can't seem to get to that page,
Then you can't get to Safe Mode.
> even though I have pressed
> F8 when I was able to get to the boot loader page or BIOS page, but it
> won't
> work.
> 3) I have had many issues with the electricity going out and wrecking
> things
> on my computer, not to mention killing my fax machine.
You need UPS protection. Expect to pay a couple of hundred dollars for
solid UPS units.
> Last time it happened, Outlook reverted to 2006.
There is no Outlook 2006.
> I have the computer on a surge protector, which
> obviously was of no use in this case.
Surge protecters are of very limited help.
> I also have it hooked up to a UBS
Do you mean a UPS? If so, you need a bigger one.
> but
> that doesn't really help me when I am not home when the electricity goes
> out.
> And I don't want to turn my computer off, mid-project, just because I'm
> leaving my home office for a couple of hours. Besides a lightning rod and
> a
> standby generator, is there a solution to this so this won't happen again?
>
> Fortunately, my files are backed up by Carbonite, but I would rather get
> this computer working without reformatting the hard drive,
Which you can't do without the install disks you say you don't have.
> since I have too
> many projects to take the time to install everything again right now.
>
> Thank you for your help!
You need a more rational and practical approach to your PC setup, use, and
maintenance.
-pk
news:7C399078-408E-4B98-8ECE-409BCB8BFB7E@microsoft.com...
> An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
> problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
> error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
> Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work. Then I got
> another
> error message: "Windows could not start because the following file is
> missing
> or corrupt: Windows root.\system 32\hal.dll. Please reinstall a copy of
> the
> above file." I found some articles on how to reinsal the file with the XP
> recovery disks, but I have some questions.
>
> My questions:
> 1) I have 2 OSs installed (XP Pro and XP Home) because that's how my
> computer guy did it.
Why?
> Since XP Pro is the default, I'm assuming that is the
> disk I use.
Why?
> However, I don't think I have those disks, so what can I do?
Why on earth do you not have the reinstall disks for the OS?
If this is how your "computer guy did it", get the disks from him.
> 2) Is it possible that starting in Safe Mode will fix this,
This specific problem can be related to a boot.ini issue, and that can be
fixed without the specific install disks. If you can get into Safe Mode,
you have already fixed the problem.
For example,
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm
> instead of
> recovery disks? I can't seem to get to that page,
Then you can't get to Safe Mode.
> even though I have pressed
> F8 when I was able to get to the boot loader page or BIOS page, but it
> won't
> work.
> 3) I have had many issues with the electricity going out and wrecking
> things
> on my computer, not to mention killing my fax machine.
You need UPS protection. Expect to pay a couple of hundred dollars for
solid UPS units.
> Last time it happened, Outlook reverted to 2006.
There is no Outlook 2006.
> I have the computer on a surge protector, which
> obviously was of no use in this case.
Surge protecters are of very limited help.
> I also have it hooked up to a UBS
Do you mean a UPS? If so, you need a bigger one.
> but
> that doesn't really help me when I am not home when the electricity goes
> out.
> And I don't want to turn my computer off, mid-project, just because I'm
> leaving my home office for a couple of hours. Besides a lightning rod and
> a
> standby generator, is there a solution to this so this won't happen again?
>
> Fortunately, my files are backed up by Carbonite, but I would rather get
> this computer working without reformatting the hard drive,
Which you can't do without the install disks you say you don't have.
> since I have too
> many projects to take the time to install everything again right now.
>
> Thank you for your help!
You need a more rational and practical approach to your PC setup, use, and
maintenance.
-pk
Re: Electricity Outage Caused Windows Error (won't Reboot)
On Nov 8, 5:01 pm, jviren <jvi...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
> problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
> error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
> Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work.
Do we fix something rather than first learn what is wrong? Error
message tells you which direction to start an analysis. Trying to fix
it may create additional problems - exponentially complicate this
problem.
It says data from the disk is intermittent. So get and execute the
disk drive manufacturer's diagnostics to learn of disk drive
hardware. An analysis not complicated by Windows, the filesystem,
malware, or disk data. A diagnostic that executes without Windows
means the analysis is simpler using only their software and but a few
hardware components of your system.
Curing symptoms (ie UPS) is posting wild speculation. Power down by
any means is not hardware destructive (assuming the hardware meets
minimal hardware requirements). Many custom systems are assembled
without even basic electrical knowledge. Then to fix their bean
counter solution (it saved $25), they recommend a $100 UPS. If power
down caused hardware damage, an effective solution starts with the
reason for that failure - the computer assembler.
Meanwhile, you have no useful replies without hard information from
diagnostics and other analysis information. Only then can the actual
problem be identified and the informed reply. Later, that problem is
fixed. IOW how to solve a problem the first time, with less money -
and faster. First identify the failure. Then fix it.
> An electric outage yesterday caused my Compaq Presario desktop to have
> problems. It booted REALLLLLLLY slowly and so I rebooted it, but I got an
> error message: "Disk read error recurred on Start Up. Press Ctl + Alt +
> Delete..." So I did that over and over and it didn't work.
Do we fix something rather than first learn what is wrong? Error
message tells you which direction to start an analysis. Trying to fix
it may create additional problems - exponentially complicate this
problem.
It says data from the disk is intermittent. So get and execute the
disk drive manufacturer's diagnostics to learn of disk drive
hardware. An analysis not complicated by Windows, the filesystem,
malware, or disk data. A diagnostic that executes without Windows
means the analysis is simpler using only their software and but a few
hardware components of your system.
Curing symptoms (ie UPS) is posting wild speculation. Power down by
any means is not hardware destructive (assuming the hardware meets
minimal hardware requirements). Many custom systems are assembled
without even basic electrical knowledge. Then to fix their bean
counter solution (it saved $25), they recommend a $100 UPS. If power
down caused hardware damage, an effective solution starts with the
reason for that failure - the computer assembler.
Meanwhile, you have no useful replies without hard information from
diagnostics and other analysis information. Only then can the actual
problem be identified and the informed reply. Later, that problem is
fixed. IOW how to solve a problem the first time, with less money -
and faster. First identify the failure. Then fix it.