On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> AdeW wrote:
> > On 8 Aug, 05:43, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> AdeW wrote:
> >>>> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
> >>>> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?
>
> >> It can. Or it might have been a poor connection in the first place (if it
> >> were well soldered in the first place, wiggling wouldn't cause any
> >> havoc).
>
> >>> I have managed to use computer in the last few days without the mouse
> >>> or keyboard going wrong. I noticed that the mouse cable had a acute
> >>> turn (if you liken it to a race track).
>
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
Mouse becomes erratic until restart computer
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Re:_Mouse_becomes_erratic_until_i_restart_computer?
On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> AdeW wrote:
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
> AdeW wrote:
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
Re:_Mouse_becomes_erratic_until_i_restart_computer?
On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
Re:_Mouse_becomes_erratic_until_i_restart_computer?
On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
Re:_Mouse_becomes_erratic_until_i_restart_computer?
On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
wrote:
> >> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases..
> >> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>
> >> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
> >> the
> >> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>
> > A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
> > moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
> > keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
> > pointer started moving again.
>
> > On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
> > stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
> > away.
>
> > So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
> > the mouse.
>
> Or its cable, possibly.
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Re: Mouse becomes erratic until i restart computer?
AdeW wrote:
> On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> AdeW wrote:
>>> On 8 Aug, 05:43, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> AdeW wrote:
>>>>>> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
>>>>>> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?
>>
>>>> It can. Or it might have been a poor connection in the first place (if
>>>> it
>>>> were well soldered in the first place, wiggling wouldn't cause any
>>>> havoc).
>>
>>>>> I have managed to use computer in the last few days without the mouse
>>>>> or keyboard going wrong. I noticed that the mouse cable had a acute
>>>>> turn (if you liken it to a race track).
>>
>>>> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases.
>>>> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>>
>>>> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
>>>> the
>>>> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>>
>>> A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
>>> moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
>>> keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
>>> pointer started moving again.
>>
>>> On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
>>> stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
>>> away.
>>
>>> So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
>>> the mouse.
>>
>> Or its cable, possibly. IF it's the cable (and not the mouse), then....
>>
>> If you can't readily replace the mouse cable, which is likely, you might
>> at
>> least be able to localize which part of the cable is causing the
>> intermittent problem (by bending it at different spots and monitoring
>> it),
>> and if you can find a specific place where this problem happens, perhaps
>> glue a wooden shim on the cable at that point just to keep it fixed in
>> that
>> position (but I'd classify this as a "quick and dirty, mickey mouse patch
>> job"
>>
>>
>>
>>> I suppose I will have to change the mouse at some point - unless i'm
>>> careful.
>>
>>> I have though now swapped the cables round so that keyboard cable
>>> doesn't get in the way of the mouse- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I have been managing to use the computer without a mouse for a last
> few weeks - I disconnected the mouse - getting the know the keyboard
> shortcuts is a worthwhile challenge like getting the know the alt key
> and I have found how the speed up the mouse pointer with the
> accessibility mouse keys.
>
> I just wanted to see how the keyboard copes and the isolate that
> problem when it wasn't just the mouse pointer that froze but also
> parts of the keyboard would freeze except ctrl-alt-del and the
> numberpad accessiblity mouse keys.
>
> Thing is though is that although when i last wrote I it seemed the
> problem was with the mouse alone. I have still had occassions when the
> keyboard would stop responding.
>
> Shutting down to MS-DOS mode gets the keyboard working again in real
> DOS mode though everytime - (except the once ocassion when it didn't
> respond at the dos prompt till i pressed the alt key) or restarting
> windows or the computer.
But the services needed and used in MS-DOS are much more limited than those
needed and used in windows, which uses more drivers, etc.
> Like before Shift and Tab sometimes causes the keyboard to not respond
> in the BT Yahoo web browser.
>
> If the mouse isn't attached but the keyboard still sometimes freezes I
> fear maybe there is something wrong with the ps/2 port?
I wouldn't necessarily assume that (although if you wiggled the connector
and it magically cleared up, I might). But I don't know what specifically
to suggest, and someone else here might. Anyone?
> But then again why does ctrl-alt-del and the numberpad mousekeys work?
But that's only a very limited use of the keyboard. I don't think it's
always an "all or nothing" defect.
> On 15 Aug, 06:22, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> AdeW wrote:
>>> On 8 Aug, 05:43, "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudg...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> AdeW wrote:
>>>>>> I'd have thought waggling wiggling would have been the cause of the
>>>>>> cracked solder joint in the first place wouldn't it?
>>
>>>> It can. Or it might have been a poor connection in the first place (if
>>>> it
>>>> were well soldered in the first place, wiggling wouldn't cause any
>>>> havoc).
>>
>>>>> I have managed to use computer in the last few days without the mouse
>>>>> or keyboard going wrong. I noticed that the mouse cable had a acute
>>>>> turn (if you liken it to a race track).
>>
>>>> And sharp bends or turns can break some wire connections in some cases.
>>>> It's generally not advisable to do that.
>>
>>>> Which reminds me - when you pull out a cable (ANY cable), never pull on
>>>> the
>>>> cable itself, but instead, pull the connector.
>>
>>> A couple of days later the pointer got stuck and noticed that when i
>>> moved the mouse forward the mouse cable kinda was in the way of the
>>> keyboard cable and so when i lifted the mouse cable with my hand the
>>> pointer started moving again.
>>
>>> On another day I left some earphone cables near the mouse cable which
>>> stopped the mouse pointer moving till i moved the earphone cables
>>> away.
>>
>>> So that just helps to confirm to me that there's something wrong with
>>> the mouse.
>>
>> Or its cable, possibly. IF it's the cable (and not the mouse), then....
>>
>> If you can't readily replace the mouse cable, which is likely, you might
>> at
>> least be able to localize which part of the cable is causing the
>> intermittent problem (by bending it at different spots and monitoring
>> it),
>> and if you can find a specific place where this problem happens, perhaps
>> glue a wooden shim on the cable at that point just to keep it fixed in
>> that
>> position (but I'd classify this as a "quick and dirty, mickey mouse patch
>> job"
>>
>>
>>
>>> I suppose I will have to change the mouse at some point - unless i'm
>>> careful.
>>
>>> I have though now swapped the cables round so that keyboard cable
>>> doesn't get in the way of the mouse- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I have been managing to use the computer without a mouse for a last
> few weeks - I disconnected the mouse - getting the know the keyboard
> shortcuts is a worthwhile challenge like getting the know the alt key
> and I have found how the speed up the mouse pointer with the
> accessibility mouse keys.
>
> I just wanted to see how the keyboard copes and the isolate that
> problem when it wasn't just the mouse pointer that froze but also
> parts of the keyboard would freeze except ctrl-alt-del and the
> numberpad accessiblity mouse keys.
>
> Thing is though is that although when i last wrote I it seemed the
> problem was with the mouse alone. I have still had occassions when the
> keyboard would stop responding.
>
> Shutting down to MS-DOS mode gets the keyboard working again in real
> DOS mode though everytime - (except the once ocassion when it didn't
> respond at the dos prompt till i pressed the alt key) or restarting
> windows or the computer.
But the services needed and used in MS-DOS are much more limited than those
needed and used in windows, which uses more drivers, etc.
> Like before Shift and Tab sometimes causes the keyboard to not respond
> in the BT Yahoo web browser.
>
> If the mouse isn't attached but the keyboard still sometimes freezes I
> fear maybe there is something wrong with the ps/2 port?
I wouldn't necessarily assume that (although if you wiggled the connector
and it magically cleared up, I might). But I don't know what specifically
to suggest, and someone else here might. Anyone?
> But then again why does ctrl-alt-del and the numberpad mousekeys work?
But that's only a very limited use of the keyboard. I don't think it's
always an "all or nothing" defect.