Fault Bucket Update

[tom c]

Sorry, I finally found what you were looking for. I posted the results
below, although I doubt it will be of any great use.

I seem to found the culprit. The RAM used in building the computer was not
what you would call "Top Shelf" and I ran into some other issues that caused
me to think I had a problem elsewhere. The only thing that was common in
all of the issues I was having was the memory. I replaced the RAM with 4
Gigs of Crucial 2 by 2 Gig, which was even cheaper than what I originally
bought. ( I don't even remember what brand it was, but it was not a major
brand) I am still only seeing 3.25 Gig in Windows though.

I thought Windows XP was supposed to suppport up to 4 Gig?

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 6/6/2009
Time: 8:00:47 AM
User: N/A
Computer: ENTERPRISE
Description:
Fault bucket 34370699.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 42 75 63 6b 65 74 3a 20 Bucket:
0008: 33 34 33 37 30 36 39 39 34370699
0010: 0d 0a ..



"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OyTqhI65JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Tom
>
> Complete error reports are needed! Also the matching error report for the
> fault bucket report
>
> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
> click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
> button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
> Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
> Event Viewer.
>
> I can deal with the third error.
>
> Download and install the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
> Download details: User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
> http://snipurl.com/5b61
>
> UPHClean v1.6d readme.txt
> http://snipurl.com/ko8m
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Tom C wrote:
>> Thank you for the response. I have several error logs to pos and have
>> included them below.
>>
>> Fault bucket 34370699.
>>
>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>
>>
>>
>> The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The
>> local computer may not have the necessary registry information or
>> message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may
>> be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see
>> Help and Support for details. The following information is part of
>> the event: 7.
>> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use
>> by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it
>> is no longer in use.
>>
>>
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in mes
>>
>> sage news:u6xz$ot5JHA.1096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> Is there another error report at the same time? If so please post a
>>> copy. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
>>> Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
>>> of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
>>> are important.
>>>
>>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close
>>> Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body
>>> of
>>> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
>>> Event Viewer.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP3, Intel Core 2 Dup e7400 A2800GHZ, 4 Gig ram. ATI
>>>> Radeon 4670 video card.
>>>>
>>>> While playing some games, mainly EAs Need for Speed Underground 2,
>>>> the game crashes back to the Windows desktop. Checking event
>>>> viewer, I get the red error icon. Double clicking on the icon
>>>> provides the fault bucket 34370699 error, but nothing else. I
>>>> can't get the game to play very much due to the same errors causing
>>>> the games to constantly crash.
>>>> The system is up to date with all available updates from Microsoft
>>>> update. I have already uninstalled the games, updated to the latest
>>>> Direct X 9 and updated all of my hardware drivers then nreinstalled
>>>> the problem games with the same result. Checking the gaming sites I
>>>> find nothing at all that comes close to the error listed.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>

[ken blake, mvp]

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:30:10 -0700, "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I replaced the RAM with 4
> Gigs of Crucial 2 by 2 Gig, which was even cheaper than what I originally
> bought. ( I don't even remember what brand it was, but it was not a major
> brand) I am still only seeing 3.25 Gig in Windows though.
>
> I thought Windows XP was supposed to suppport up to 4 Gig?



All 32-bit client versions of Windows (not just Vista/XP) have a 4GB
address space. That's the theoretical upper limit beyond which you can
not go.

But you can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
range from as little as 2GB to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around
3.1GB.

Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
address space to map it to.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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[tom c]

Thanks for the info on the RAM. Hmmm. I didn't think I had anything using
board memory. For instance. my video card has 1 gig of its own memory.

I just got the same fault bucket error again. Below is the report . I do
not get the error except when running NFS2 or similar games like Myst URU.
I have updated all of my drivers, including the video card. Athough the
errors are not nearly as prevelent as they were before I replaced the RAM,
the error does still occur.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 6/14/2009
Time: 6:56:44 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ENTERPRISE
Description:
Fault bucket 34370699.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 42 75 63 6b 65 74 3a 20 Bucket:
0008: 33 34 33 37 30 36 39 39 34370699
0010: 0d 0a ..

"Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KscZl.798$9Z.454@newsfe08.iad...
> Sorry, I finally found what you were looking for. I posted the results
> below, although I doubt it will be of any great use.
>
> I seem to found the culprit. The RAM used in building the computer was
> not what you would call "Top Shelf" and I ran into some other issues that
> caused me to think I had a problem elsewhere. The only thing that was
> common in all of the issues I was having was the memory. I replaced the
> RAM with 4 Gigs of Crucial 2 by 2 Gig, which was even cheaper than what I
> originally bought. ( I don't even remember what brand it was, but it was
> not a major brand) I am still only seeing 3.25 Gig in Windows though.
>
> I thought Windows XP was supposed to suppport up to 4 Gig?
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: Application Hang
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 1001
> Date: 6/6/2009
> Time: 8:00:47 AM
> User: N/A
> Computer: ENTERPRISE
> Description:
> Fault bucket 34370699.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Data:
> 0000: 42 75 63 6b 65 74 3a 20 Bucket:
> 0008: 33 34 33 37 30 36 39 39 34370699
> 0010: 0d 0a ..
>
>
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OyTqhI65JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Tom
>>
>> Complete error reports are needed! Also the matching error report for the
>> fault bucket report
>>
>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
>> click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
>> button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
>> Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
>> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
>> Event Viewer.
>>
>> I can deal with the third error.
>>
>> Download and install the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>> Download details: User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>> http://snipurl.com/5b61
>>
>> UPHClean v1.6d readme.txt
>> http://snipurl.com/ko8m
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Tom C wrote:
>>> Thank you for the response. I have several error logs to pos and have
>>> included them below.
>>>
>>> Fault bucket 34370699.
>>>
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The
>>> local computer may not have the necessary registry information or
>>> message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may
>>> be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see
>>> Help and Support for details. The following information is part of
>>> the event: 7.
>>> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use
>>> by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it
>>> is no longer in use.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in mes
>>>
>>> sage news:u6xz$ot5JHA.1096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> Is there another error report at the same time? If so please post a
>>>> copy. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
>>>> Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
>>>> of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
>>>> are important.
>>>>
>>>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>>>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>>>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close
>>>> Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the
>>>> body
>>>> of
>>>> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
>>>> Event Viewer.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP3, Intel Core 2 Dup e7400 A2800GHZ, 4 Gig ram. ATI
>>>>> Radeon 4670 video card.
>>>>>
>>>>> While playing some games, mainly EAs Need for Speed Underground 2,
>>>>> the game crashes back to the Windows desktop. Checking event
>>>>> viewer, I get the red error icon. Double clicking on the icon
>>>>> provides the fault bucket 34370699 error, but nothing else. I
>>>>> can't get the game to play very much due to the same errors causing
>>>>> the games to constantly crash.
>>>>> The system is up to date with all available updates from Microsoft
>>>>> update. I have already uninstalled the games, updated to the latest
>>>>> Direct X 9 and updated all of my hardware drivers then nreinstalled
>>>>> the problem games with the same result. Checking the gaming sites I
>>>>> find nothing at all that comes close to the error listed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>
>
>
>

[gerry]

Tom

A 32 bit system will not recognise 4 gb of RAM. What your system is
recognisng is par for the course
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt/RAM.html

You have not provided the matching error report for the fault bucket
report as
requested.

Is the problem still occuring since you changed the RAM?

If yes what happens if you uninstall Need for Speed Underground 2. Do
you still see the errors?


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tom C wrote:
> Sorry, I finally found what you were looking for. I posted the
> results below, although I doubt it will be of any great use.
>
> I seem to found the culprit. The RAM used in building the computer
> was not what you would call "Top Shelf" and I ran into some other
> issues that caused me to think I had a problem elsewhere. The only
> thing that was common in all of the issues I was having was the
> memory. I replaced the RAM with 4 Gigs of Crucial 2 by 2 Gig, which
> was even cheaper than what I originally bought. ( I don't even
> remember what brand it was, but it was not a major brand) I am still
> only seeing 3.25 Gig in Windows though.
> I thought Windows XP was supposed to suppport up to 4 Gig?
>
> Event Type: Error
> Event Source: Application Hang
> Event Category: None
> Event ID: 1001
> Date: 6/6/2009
> Time: 8:00:47 AM
> User: N/A
> Computer: ENTERPRISE
> Description:
> Fault bucket 34370699.
>
> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> Data:
> 0000: 42 75 63 6b 65 74 3a 20 Bucket:
> 0008: 33 34 33 37 30 36 39 39 34370699
> 0010: 0d 0a ..
>
>
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OyTqhI65JHA.1712@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Tom
>>
>> Complete error reports are needed! Also the matching error report
>> for the fault bucket report
>>
>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close
>> Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the
>> body of
>> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
>> Event Viewer.
>>
>> I can deal with the third error.
>>
>> Download and install the User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>> Download details: User Profile Hive Cleanup Service
>> http://snipurl.com/5b61
>>
>> UPHClean v1.6d readme.txt
>> http://snipurl.com/ko8m
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Tom C wrote:
>>> Thank you for the response. I have several error logs to pos and
>>> have included them below.
>>>
>>> Fault bucket 34370699.
>>>
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found.
>>> The local computer may not have the necessary registry information
>>> or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer.
>>> You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this
>>> description; see Help and Support for details. The following
>>> information is part of the event: 7.
>>> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in
>>> use by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded
>>> when it is no longer in use.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in mes
>>>
>>> sage news:u6xz$ot5JHA.1096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> Is there another error report at the same time? If so please post a
>>>> copy. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control
>>>> Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching
>>>> the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source
>>>> and
>>>> Description are important.
>>>>
>>>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>>>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>>>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
>>>> close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
>>>> into the body of
>>>> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
>>>> Event Viewer.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom C wrote:
>>>>> Windows XP Pro SP3, Intel Core 2 Dup e7400 A2800GHZ, 4 Gig ram.
>>>>> ATI Radeon 4670 video card.
>>>>>
>>>>> While playing some games, mainly EAs Need for Speed Underground 2,
>>>>> the game crashes back to the Windows desktop. Checking event
>>>>> viewer, I get the red error icon. Double clicking on the icon
>>>>> provides the fault bucket 34370699 error, but nothing else. I
>>>>> can't get the game to play very much due to the same errors
>>>>> causing the games to constantly crash.
>>>>> The system is up to date with all available updates from Microsoft
>>>>> update. I have already uninstalled the games, updated to the
>>>>> latest Direct X 9 and updated all of my hardware drivers then
>>>>> nreinstalled the problem games with the same result. Checking
>>>>> the gaming sites I find nothing at all that comes close to the
>>>>> error listed. Any ideas?

[patrick keenan]

"Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:KscZl.798$9Z.454@newsfe08.iad...
> Sorry, I finally found what you were looking for. I posted the results
> below, although I doubt it will be of any great use.
>
> I seem to found the culprit. The RAM used in building the computer was
> not what you would call "Top Shelf" and I ran into some other issues that
> caused me to think I had a problem elsewhere. The only thing that was
> common in all of the issues I was having was the memory. I replaced the
> RAM with 4 Gigs of Crucial 2 by 2 Gig, which was even cheaper than what I
> originally bought. ( I don't even remember what brand it was, but it was
> not a major brand) I am still only seeing 3.25 Gig in Windows though.
>
> I thought Windows XP was supposed to suppport up to 4 Gig?

It can address up to 4 gig of space, but that doesn't mean quite what you
think it does.

No 32-bit OS's allow full access to 4 gig of ram.

This is because they *have* to set aside space somewhere for addressing
hardware. 32-bit Mac and Linux OS's do exactly the same thing.

If you're seeing 3.25 gig, you aren't seeing a problem.

<snippage>

[patrick keenan]

"Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:YFiZl.3842$FI5.2544@newsfe12.iad...
> Thanks for the info on the RAM. Hmmm. I didn't think I had anything
> using board memory. For instance. my video card has 1 gig of its own
> memory.

Using address space does not mean "using board memory".


> I just got the same fault bucket error again. Below is the report . I do
> not get the error except when running NFS2 or similar games like Myst URU.
> I have updated all of my drivers, including the video card. Athough the
> errors are not nearly as prevelent as they were before I replaced the RAM,
> the error does still occur.

Then apparently there may be some hardware issues.

Check with the game manufacturer for specific compatibilities. It can be
that current versions of drivers exacerbate problems, and that you have to
roll back to fix them.

<snippage>

[tom c]

Great! Thanks for all of the info.

Now I understand.


"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
news:O$dttLW7JHA.1424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Tom C" <bettablue@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:KscZl.798$9Z.454@newsfe08.iad...
>> Sorry, I finally found what you were looking for. I posted the results
>> below, although I doubt it will be of any great use.
>>
>> I seem to found the culprit. The RAM used in building the computer was
>> not what you would call "Top Shelf" and I ran into some other issues that
>> caused me to think I had a problem elsewhere. The only thing that was
>> common in all of the issues I was having was the memory. I replaced the
>> RAM with 4 Gigs of Crucial 2 by 2 Gig, which was even cheaper than what I
>> originally bought. ( I don't even remember what brand it was, but it was
>> not a major brand) I am still only seeing 3.25 Gig in Windows though.
>>
>> I thought Windows XP was supposed to suppport up to 4 Gig?
>
> It can address up to 4 gig of space, but that doesn't mean quite what you
> think it does.
>
> No 32-bit OS's allow full access to 4 gig of ram.
>
> This is because they *have* to set aside space somewhere for addressing
> hardware. 32-bit Mac and Linux OS's do exactly the same thing.
>
> If you're seeing 3.25 gig, you aren't seeing a problem.
>
> <snippage>
>