interesting comment
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/0 ... ows-7.aspx
of course i agree with all criticisms with vista the sht OS
# Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.
The first Microsoft thing that Microsoft have to do with Windows is to 
offer al least the same functionality like Windows XP.
I think that Aero Peak, Aero Snap and Aero etc is very usefull and nice 
things to an operating system but this things are not importan if the 
operating system not offer at least the same functionality that Windows 
XP do and this is the first thing that Microsoft have to do after 
developings new features as Aero Gadgets.
In my company and our customers dont like Windows Vista and stick with 
Windows XP because only few and little things that Microsoft can correct 
it very easily:
1. Expand "All Programs" in Start Menu. Windows XP can do it. Vista and 
Seven can't.
2. I want to order the "All Programs" in Start Menu. I disable de option 
to not order Programs alphabetically, but every time i restart the 
computer or install a new program the "All Programs" menu sorted 
alphabetically automatically. This occurs in Windows Vista and not fixed 
in Windows Seven. What are Microsoft doing this three years with Windows 
Seven? Correcting bugs and fails or adding touching capabilities and 
Aero Peaks, Aero Snaps, Aero etc's...?
3. The possibility to customize Windows Explorer toolbar. Windows 95 to 
XP can do it. Vista and Seven can't. Most users requiered the "Up 
Folder" button in Windows Explorer toolbar and not need the options that 
Microsoft put in this toolbar that cant change it.
4. The ability to catalog music in Windows Media Player Library AT LEAST 
like WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 10. Imposible to catalog in Windows Media 
Player 11 and 12 because is only album centric and in Windows 7 
Microsoft remove the advanced tag editor.
5. If a antispyware program tells me to delete a file called "spy.dll" 
stored in C:\Windows\System32, can someone tells me how to search this 
file in Windows Vista or Seven? Very complex and a lot of clicks in 
Vista ans Seven.
Or if i'm a developer or a technical and i want to find a file in the 
system or windows folder is very complex to me to find it. For example i 
want to search the host file to modify it, or to find the winipcfg 
application. Windows Search is not valid to a very lot of users.
6. Removing tabs controls in some Control Panel options and in more 
places in all Windows, makes all things more complicated and make doings 
actions more slowly and with more clicks than in Windows XP. For 
example, in Windows XP, in the "Appearance" option i cant change the 
background wallpaper, the screensaver and more things only with one 
click to change between options. In Windows Vista the same thing is 
going back and double clicking in other option making changing any 
option very frustrating.
If some work with Internet Information Server 7 in Windows Server 2008 
this same topic of removing tabs is more frustrating making to "Go back" 
continuously to change between options. Why Microsoft is removing the 
tab control and making all things more complicate, more complex, more 
slower, and less practical.
Microsoft need to think that all Windows users are acomodate to a user 
interface for more that 10 years since Windows 95. Microsoft cant change 
this from one day to another. Microsoft must offer at least the same 
functionality and compatibility like Windows XP does. Microsoft cant 
remove features and cant remove behaviors because all users are 
acomodate with this.
The Office 2007 toolbar is usefull and good, but Microsoft must put an 
option to configure it with older menu's and older behaviour because 
most users are accomodate to it and needs time to change to a new user 
interface and behaviour. Need to do the same with Windows Vista and Seven.
A user does become to first use Windows Vista is frustrating because its 
imposible to use it in the same manner like Windows XP do. Its imposible 
to "Go up folder" because the icon not exist, imposible to search 
because indexing is not complete, imposible to find things in the caotic 
"Control Panel", imposible to do the same things that do with Windows 
XP, and this is the REASON of why this user and all of mayority of users 
return to Windows XP and discard Windows Vista.
The first reason of the Windows Vista fiasco is not perfomance, 
compatibility or features. The first REASON is that users are acomodate 
for more than 10 years with a user interface and changing it at all is 
frustrating users.
I have a computers company and the mayority of users come back and asked 
to downgrade to Windows XP because its imposible to work with Vista. 
Only a few users have complained about the performance or compatibily of 
Windows Vista.
Microsoft needs to offer the same Windows XP functionality, the same 
Windows Explorer, the same customizations.
And when all of this is complete, then add new feature like Aero Snaps, 
Aero Peaks, Aero Tips, Aero Chips, Aero Tricks and so on.
Today Windows Vista or Seven is not for me. Why? Because I cant expand 
"All Programs" in "Star Menu", cant customize my Windows Explorer 
toolbar (the options included are not valid for me) and its imposible to 
me to find the files i want to find and imposible to me to catalog music 
with Windows Media Player 11 or 12. I'm stick in Windows XP with Windows 
Media Player 10 as the vast majority of users.
When i see Windows Vista or Seven and think that is an operating system 
for domestic users only or for multimedia users only. Windows Explorer 
in Vista and Seven is focusly on media files. But what about companies, 
technicals, developers and so on. When I open a developer folder project 
in Vista or Seven i see it like media files. This is incongruent for an 
operating system. And operating system must cover all kind of users. Not 
the mayority of users. This is the cause of the fiasco of Vista. 
Companies, technicals and developers dont want and operating system do 
only for media or domestic users (the mayority of users).
All technical, developers and so on need the ability of customize the 
operating system like Windows 95 to Windows XP do. Don't like a closed 
operating system. If i want it i buy a Mac.
Microsoft needs to think seriously and slowly two things:
1. Cant change a behaviour and a user interface that users are acomodate 
for more than 10 years. Changing it makes rejection of users.
2. Think not only in the mayority of users. Think of all users, 
especially technicals, devolopers and more.
When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists 
and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders, 
housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to 
develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use 
to them.
What happened with Windows Vista?
Microsoft think, please think.
"If I want a Mac, I buy a Mac, not Windows Vista or Seven."
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:15 AM by JaviAl
			
			
									
									
						Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.
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ml's got his panties all in a bunch!...LOL!
Mark Levitski wrote:
-----------------------------
Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
OS available today?
			
			
									
									
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Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
OS available today?
Re: Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>to them.
>
>What happened with Windows Vista?
>
>Microsoft think, please think.
What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
"focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
(but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
what you need!)
			
			
									
									
						>When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>to them.
>
>What happened with Windows Vista?
>
>Microsoft think, please think.
What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
"focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
(but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
what you need!)
Re: Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.
+Bob+ wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>
>
>> When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>> and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>> housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>> develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>> to them.
>>
>> What happened with Windows Vista?
>>
>> Microsoft think, please think.
>
> What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
> "focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
> want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
You've been a member of one of these "focus groups"?
>
> They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
> (but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
> what you need!)
So Microsoft spends millions on market research and then they totally
ignore the findings?
You think anyone, other than those who hate Microsoft (like you do)
believe that statement?
			
			
									
									
						> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>
>
>> When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>> and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>> housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>> develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>> to them.
>>
>> What happened with Windows Vista?
>>
>> Microsoft think, please think.
>
> What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
> "focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
> want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
You've been a member of one of these "focus groups"?
>
> They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
> (but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
> what you need!)
So Microsoft spends millions on market research and then they totally
ignore the findings?
You think anyone, other than those who hate Microsoft (like you do)
believe that statement?
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				charles w davis
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Re: Windows Vista and Seven are less customizable than XP.
Frank,
You might come to the conclusion that what Microsoft is doing is exactly
what the market research findings showed.
"Frank" <fb@fuk.you> wrote in message news:4a2ac28d$1@news.x-privat.org...
> +Bob+ wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>>> and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>>> housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>>> develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>>> to them.
>>>
>>> What happened with Windows Vista?
>>>
>>> Microsoft think, please think.
>>
>> What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
>> "focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
>> want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
>
> You've been a member of one of these "focus groups"?
>>
>> They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
>> (but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
>> what you need!)
>
> So Microsoft spends millions on market research and then they totally
> ignore the findings?
> You think anyone, other than those who hate Microsoft (like you do)
> believe that statement?
>
			
			
									
									
						You might come to the conclusion that what Microsoft is doing is exactly
what the market research findings showed.
"Frank" <fb@fuk.you> wrote in message news:4a2ac28d$1@news.x-privat.org...
> +Bob+ wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:36:00 +0300, TheBiG <kah@com.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When Microsoft develop the Windows 95 user interface used psychologists
>>> and sociologists and studied the behavior of people: builders,
>>> housewives, children, engineers, developers, governments and others to
>>> develop the user interface and get the best performance and ease of use
>>> to them.
>>>
>>> What happened with Windows Vista?
>>>
>>> Microsoft think, please think.
>>
>> What happened to Vista is that MS no longer has a clue. They form
>> "focus groups", ask them loaded questions to get the answers they
>> want, then ignore them anyway and do whatever they want to do.
>
> You've been a member of one of these "focus groups"?
>>
>> They no longer have a clue about who their users are or what they need
>> (but they don't care, because they are the almighty MS and they _know_
>> what you need!)
>
> So Microsoft spends millions on market research and then they totally
> ignore the findings?
> You think anyone, other than those who hate Microsoft (like you do)
> believe that statement?
>
Re: ml's got his panties all in a bunch!...LOL!
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:58:11 -0700, Frank <fb@fuk.you> wrote:
>Mark Levitski wrote:
>-----------------------------
>Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
>OS available today?
Best according to who? MS seems to be in a serious hurry to replace it
for an OS that's "the best".
			
			
									
									
						>Mark Levitski wrote:
>-----------------------------
>Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
>OS available today?
Best according to who? MS seems to be in a serious hurry to replace it
for an OS that's "the best".
Re: ml's got his panties all in a bunch!...LOL!
+Bob+ wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:58:11 -0700, Frank <fb@fuk.you> wrote:
>
>> Mark Levitski wrote:
>> -----------------------------
>> Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
>> OS available today?
>
> Best according to who?
According to what is current available at retail level, Vista Ultimate
is the best choice.
MS seems to be in a serious hurry to replace it
for an OS that's "the best".
Really?
You're not aware of the usual replacement/upgrade OS cycle that MS
usually keeps (or tries to keep), are you?
Obviously, you're not.
			
			
									
									
						> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:58:11 -0700, Frank <fb@fuk.you> wrote:
>
>> Mark Levitski wrote:
>> -----------------------------
>> Hey bozo...why are you using...or trying to use...Vista, the very best
>> OS available today?
>
> Best according to who?
According to what is current available at retail level, Vista Ultimate
is the best choice.
MS seems to be in a serious hurry to replace it
for an OS that's "the best".
Really?
You're not aware of the usual replacement/upgrade OS cycle that MS
usually keeps (or tries to keep), are you?
Obviously, you're not.